PartnerWorld membership doesnt provide the necessary access or downloads to say “zpdt” to do development work ? This is what we do
Scott On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 11:07 AM Christopher Y. Blaicher < [email protected]> wrote: > To me there is a difference between 'shortage of talent' and independent > (open) development. IBM would be well served to make development platforms > available, but that is not what I want to discuss. > > I think the shortage of talent is because no company wants to invest in > talent development for z/OS. They want high schools and colleges to send > them talented people. I.E. the student pays for the education, not the > company. > > z/OS is just another operating system, just like UNIX or Windows, just far > more robust. When you started using scripts, you had to learn it. JCL is > no different, you have to learn it. Yes, it is different, but then again > scripts were different for me coming from a long history of IBM operating > systems. > > No, I find the lack of educated talent is a corporate problem, not a > talent problem. The corporations are just too cheap to make the > investment. Let students pay the thousands of dollars. > > Chris Blaicher > Technical Architect > Syncsort, Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Edgington, Jerry > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 10:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: regarding the 'shortage of mainframe talent' > > [ External - This message originated Externally. Use proper judgement and > caution with attachments, links, or responses. ] > > Just a response to this comment, and I agree. " To me, the biggest > problem for z/OpenSource {grin} is the lack of an affordable platform for > developers." > > I have been developing an "open source" project for z/OS. So, I have run > into this many times, and it not just the hardware and z/OS, but other > subsystems, like DB2, IMS, CICS, and various other components, like DBB, > z/OS Connect, etc. That is one of the biggest road blocks in this effort. > However, working with the Open Mainframe Project, they are making these > types of z/OS environment available. My "open source" project has been > accepted to OMP and we are working getting the environment setup to > continue developing the Polycephaly project, under OMP. > > My wish is, to have more of these type environments setup. > Jerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf > Of John McKown > Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 9:52 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: regarding the 'shortage of mainframe talent' > > This message was sent from an external source outside of Western & > Southern's network. Do not click links or open attachments unless you > recognize the sender and know the contents are safe. > > ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 8:21 AM Gord Tomlin < > [email protected]> > wrote: > > > On 2020-04-09 07:05, John McKown wrote: > > >> If your objective is to do something interesting and > > >> mind-stimulating in your newly enlarged spare time, then there are > > >> massive number of open source projects you could contribute to. > > >> There's a very good chance that some such projects line up well with > your outside interests. > > >> > > > Ain't none of z/OS, unfortunately. At least as far as I know. > > > > > CBT? Zowe? Zigi? > > > > CBT is sort of open source. Well, it is open source. But when I think of > open source, I think of collaborative projects like I see on Github. I can > download a CBT file and modify it, then send my updated source to Sam for > inclusion. But there isn't the history like a Github project. > > I'll look at Zowe and Zigi. This is the first I've heard of them. > > To me, the biggest problem for z/OpenSource {grin} is the lack of an > affordable platform for developers. The z/OS license fees for something > like a zPDT are way beyond my ability to pay. And even if I had the money, > IBM won't license to just anyone. IIRC, you must be a Business Partner or > soe such thing. > > The above is why what little I do anymore is Linux on Intel. > > > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, Gord Tomlin > > Action Software International > > (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) > > Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 > > Support: > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://actionsoftware.com/support/__;!!I6 > > -MEfEZPA!bMeJNdKw0OIcQopRn3h4AJBFlBxtVXy2yeQQiDsecTNb4GYPR5KQeJ1TvOve9 > > uvw9Q$ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > -- > People in sleeping bags are the soft tacos of the bear world. > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
