Radoslaw, I figured that was the case too, but the reality is that z/OS Unix is used almost everywhere. We happen to have quite a bit of Production batch writing to Unix filesystems off platform via NFS Client mounts. I personally *hate* that because there are always permission bit problems that arise when the owner of the mounted filesystem makes changes because they are unaware that there are MF jobs writing to it. We take a hands off approach when that arises and make the affected app team work with the owner of the filesystem. Most of the problems have arisen from shoddy implementation "way back when", when it was easier to chmod 777 on the directory than to actually assign proper UID/GID assignments.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, MI 49546 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job? **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Yes, you're right. However I focused on "explicit usage" of UNIX System Services. There is some difference between - lest's say CICS or DB2 and batch job with step invoking some UNIX tools or plain old-fashioned COBOL program writing to a UNIX file on HFS, NFS or even SMB-served file. BTW: It was my old joke - to show folks how to edit VSAM KSDS with ...notepad. Yes, it was feasible, with support for EBCDIC/ASCII and polish codepages. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 14.04.2020 o 16:24, Jousma, David pisze: > Just look at the PS screens in SDSF. All of those tasks are using Unix > processes in one way or another. > > _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ > Dave Jousma > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering > > Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East Paris Ave, SE | MD RSCB2H | Grand Rapids, > MI 49546 > 616.653.8429 | fax: 616.653.2717 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > R.S. > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Any shop use UNIX in a production job? > > **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** > > **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or > unexpected emails** > > W dniu 13.04.2020 o 14:06, John McKown pisze: >> Other than the implicit use of UNIX by things such as FTP, I mean. In >> particular I am speaking of keeping production data in a UNIX file, >> rather than a legacy dataset; use of scripting via /bin/sh, awk, or >> other, use of any of the BPX* UNIX callable services. >> >> Just curious. I use awk at times for doing stuff in my personal activities. >> But my manager dislikes UNIX so I can't use it in any of my "production" >> jobs because "nobody knows UNIX" and "everybody knows REXX". >> > Yes, we use various z/OS UNIX features in batch. > That include UNIX files, UNIX tools, UNIX scripts. I'm not sure about COBOL > code since I usually see compiled modules only. > > BTW: Does FTP apply? I was proud author of FTP in batch implementation. > It was 20+ years ago and it was big eyeopener for consultant team. ;-) > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > ====================================================================== Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: [email protected]. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. 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