Hi Marcy,

I have found the error. Some time before I had installed VTAM ptfs for OSA
support. I had to rebuild the VTAM shared segment with 600-7ff because it
did not fit anymore into the 600-6ff area. The GCS error was because of the
overlap. Now I have changed the VTAM segment to 400-5ff and everything
works.

Thank you again for your and Jims help. This list is really an excellent
help for everything.

best regards from Germany

Franz Josef


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marcy Cortes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM-VTAM CSA Storage Pool 241 shortage


I don't think you can send attachments to the list, so without that info...

GCS machine itself shouldn't be more than 16M.   That extra storage in the
dcss comes from outside of your virtual machine.  Not sure if this is the
cause of your interrupt loop or not.  Usually that indicates that whatever
you tried to IPL isn't code that is iplable.  Did your segment save OK?

I was going to suggest you call the support center.  But on 2.2?  Is you
VTAM version supported(hopefully)?  Maybe you can call in that way.

Marcy Cortes


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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Pohlen (Mailinglist)
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM-VTAM CSA Storage Pool 241 shortage

Hi Jim,

first of all thank you and Marcy for your hints.
I have followed your instructions, Jim , but when I start GCS it abends with
program interrupt loop. I cannot find an error in creating the segment. The
VM/ESA is version 2.2. Can this be the reason for the abend.

Logon GCS after the maintenance shows the following. There cannot be too low
memory, because I have tried up to 128MB, original storage was 16MB

L GCS
ENTER PASSWORD  (IT WILL NOT APPEAR WHEN TYPED):

There is no logmsg data
FILES:   NO RDR,   NO PRT,   NO PUN
LOGON AT 21:56:58 UTC MONDAY 03/20/06
HCPGIR453W CP entered; program interrupt loop

I have attached the console log of user Maint, the new GCTLOAD.EXEC, a
hextype of SLC L5000000, and the GCSNUC MAP as zip file. Can you explain
what I do wrong.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stracka, James (GTI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IBMVM] VM-VTAM CSA Storage Pool 241 shortage


Franz,

First make sure you have on any PTFs for Storage Pool shortages.

As Marcy suggested, you probably have to increase the size of GCS.

Your virtual storage has nothing to do with the CSA size other than the old
recommendation that the virtual storage either contain all of CSA or
none of it.  We run with VMVTAM at 106M.

Our GCS segment is:

FILE FILENAME FILETYPE MINSIZE  BEGPAG ENDPAG TYPE CL #USERS
1369 GCSB     NSS      0000256K 00000  0000C   EW  R  00016
                                00700  0074E   SR
                                0074F  0074F   SW
                                00750  009FF   SN
                                01000  0101A   SR
                                0101B  04FFF   SN

To change CSA, we replaced the SLC cards in the GCTLOAD EXEC:

from:      28  &1 &2 &3 SLC L400000
to:        28  &1 &2 &3 SLC L700000

from:     221  &1 &2 &3 SLC L600000
to:       221  &1 &2 &3 SLC LA00000

from:     295  &1 &2 &3 SLC L1200000
to:       295  &1 &2 &3 SLC L5000000

e.g.

SLC      L5000000

Which contains:

"SLC 5000000

NOTE:  THE " IS NOT A DOUBLE QUOTE BUT X'02'

       That is VERY important.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Franz Josef Pohlen
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: VM-VTAM CSA Storage Pool 241 shortage


Hi listers,

I have a problem at a customer with VM-VTAM. On weekend we have replaced a
MP2003 and 3745 (only for Token-Ring-Attachement)with a t-server and
internal Ethernet XCAs. We had similar problems after starting on Saturday
with CSA storage pool 231, but there was a ptf, which resolved excessive CSA
usage and we didn't get the messages again. There are many SWNET PUs (about
650). Now with all the users we get the following messages:

VTAM    : IST564I STORAGE UNAVAILABLE: COMMON AREA SUBPOOL 241
VTAM    : IST663I BIND FAIL REQUEST RECEIVED, SENSE=08120000
VTAM    : IST664I REAL  OLU=NLDAS00.P13L5AE5    REAL  DLU=NLDAS00.VTUBES
VTAM    : IST889I SID = DFEB2EA4301067F1
VTAM    : IST890I AUTOLOGON SESSION SETUP FAILED
VTAM    : IST314I END

This is the corresponding D NET,BFRUSE

IST097I DISPLAY ACCEPTED
IST350I DISPLAY TYPE = BUFFER POOL DATA
IST920I IO00     BUFF SIZE  583         EXP INCREMENT   6
IST921I          TIMES EXP  0           EXP/CONT THRESH 6     / *NA*
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 350         CURR AVAILABLE  349
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  350         MAX USED        115
IST989I          EXP LIMIT  2147483647  BUFFS REQUESTED 0
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST920I BS00     BUFF SIZE  216         EXP INCREMENT   17
IST921I          TIMES EXP  60          EXP/CONT THRESH 17    / 51
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 1038        CURR AVAILABLE  23
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  1038        MAX USED        1016
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST920I LP00     BUFF SIZE  2032        EXP INCREMENT   6
IST921I          TIMES EXP  1           EXP/CONT THRESH 2     / 14
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 18          CURR AVAILABLE  9
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  18          MAX USED        14
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST920I XD00     BUFF SIZE  681         EXP INCREMENT   5
IST921I          TIMES EXP  0           EXP/CONT THRESH 5     / *NA*
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 6           CURR AVAILABLE  6
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  6           MAX USED        0
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST920I LF00     BUFF SIZE  120         EXP INCREMENT   30
IST921I          TIMES EXP  12          EXP/CONT THRESH 1     / 61
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 362         CURR AVAILABLE  31
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  362         MAX USED        331
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST920I CRPL     BUFF SIZE  160         EXP INCREMENT   69
IST921I          TIMES EXP  5           EXP/CONT THRESH 29    / 167
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 405         CURR AVAILABLE  52
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  405         MAX USED        357
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST920I SF00     BUFF SIZE  112         EXP INCREMENT   32
IST921I          TIMES EXP  0           EXP/CONT THRESH 1     / *NA*
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 51          CURR AVAILABLE  39
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  51          MAX USED        12
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST920I SP00     BUFF SIZE  144         EXP INCREMENT   25
IST921I          TIMES EXP  0           EXP/CONT THRESH 1     / *NA*
IST922I          CURR TOTAL 2           CURR AVAILABLE  2
IST923I          MAX TOTAL  2           MAX USED        0
IST924I -------------------------------------------------------------
IST449I CSALIMIT = NOLIMIT, CURRENT = 3547K, MAXIMUM = 3611K IST790I MAXIMUM
CSA USED = 3611K IST449I CSA24 LIMIT = NOLIMIT, CURRENT = 24K, MAXIMUM = 27K
IST790I MAXIMUM CSA24 USED = 27K IST595I IRNLIMIT = NOLIMIT, CURRENT = 0K,
MAXIMUM = 0K IST981I VTAM PRIVATE: CURRENT = 2770K, MAXIMUM USED = 2772K
IST314I END

The VTAM-User has 372 MB virtual storage.

NETID=NLDAS00,                                                         C
HOSTSA=01,                                                             C
SSCPNAME=NLDAS0A,                                                      C
SSCPID=01,                                                             C
MAXSUBA=63,                                                            C
CDRDYN=YES,                                                            C
IOBUF=(350,512,,,,),                                                   C
HOSTPU=NLDAS

I see a shortage on BS-, LF- and CRPL-Buffers. But which solves the problem
with CSA Storage pool 241.

Can anybody give me a hint which buffer parameters to change to resolve the
problem?

Regards

Franz Josef

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