Go ahead and let the devices be sensed. We take a slightly different approach. 
We have

        Devices ,                      
                Online_at_IPL   0000-FFFF,
                Dynamic_I/O     0000-FFFF,
                Sensed          0000-FFFF

Followed by (it happens to be the last entry in the CONFIG)

        IMBED DEVICES OFFLINE

Where the devices offline file lists in agonizing detail which devices are to 
be taken offline. All of the devices are sensed, so we need not mess with 
RDEVICE at all except for a few unsupported devices that we have. We took  this 
approach because of the demands placed on us by the DASD Storage Management 
Group (MVS centric), who give us a scattering of disks intermixed with those 
belonging to that other system, and by other people who think that MVS disks 
should never be online to a VM system. They happen to be the tail that wags the 
dog.

This doesn't eliminate the need to have an EXEC or Pipeline to vary on the ones 
that you do not want attached to system during the IPL, but it does insure that 
the device blocks are built according to the data returned by the sensing 
operation during roll-call. We do not have the problem of duplicate volume 
serials, so that is not a concern of ours.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 


-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Alain Benveniste
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: System Config : suggestion (corrected)

James,

I didn't give enough infos : the problem is how to treat duplicate volsers
as Berry says Offline during IPL but get them Online just after.

I have tested a similar solution where the idea was to pipe cp q da offline
and vary on the result. The problem is that what we code with Offline_at_ipl
is not sensed which means that the DASD are seen as DEV xxxx OFFLINE. Cp q
da offline cmd sends nothing back. To 'resolve' this the only way I found is
to let the Offline_at_ipl and add the Rdevice type dasd for all the ranges.
That's an other problem because Rdevice only supports 256 dev by cmd...

Alain
Paris, France




Le 21/03/07 15:47, « Stracka, James (GTI) » <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :

> Interesting.  We reverse the order:
> 
> Devices ,
>   Offline_at_IPL  0000-FFFF,
>   Sensed          0000-FFFF,
>   Online_at_IPL   0400-0408 ,
>                   0A00-0AEF ,
>                   A9A0-A9AF ,
>                   AC30-AC3F ,
>                   AFAF      ,
>                   BC90-BCA8 ,
>                   C940-C94F ,
>                   CD40-CD5F
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Berry van Sleeuwen
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: System Config : suggestion (corrected)
> 
> 
> Hello Alain,
> 
> We use an input file to select what DASD addresses should be online
> after 
> an IPL. The file is basically a Q DASD. The file is read and attaches
> the 
> DASD to system, dedicated DASD is left free and DASD that is not used is
> 
> set offline. The only thing we have to do is (re)build the DASD file
> when 
> a volume has been added or deleted. (PIPE CP Q DASD | > DASD FILE D) It
> saves us from changing the system config every time we change the DASD
> configuration. If the files are located on shared DASD the DASD FILE can
> 
> be named something like VMLXHW1 DASD for the VMLXHW1 node.
> 
> This doesn't work when we have duplicate DASD volumes that are required
> during IPL. We have some VM's that still use the default zVM440 DASD
> volume ID's. When a default 440W01 or something like that has not been
> relabeled the 'wrong' addresses must be set offline in the system
> config:
> 
> FBVM03: Devices ,
>    Online_at_IPL   0000-FFFF,
>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  2100-21DF,
>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  21EA-21FF,
>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  2200-239F,
>    OFFLINE_AT_IPL  23A4-23FF,
>    Sensed          0000-FFFF
> 
> Regards, Berry.
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