the pc has only one network interface but thanks for the thought.
IBM has left not knowing what the problem is but nevertheless ordered
a new osa card.
will see if that corrects the problem later....
I'm leaving also (been here for 10+ hours).
Thanks for all the input - I will post any interesting news.

On 9/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I was leading to is, 'Do you have a routing problem?'. If the PC
> you are having problems with is multi-homed and is on both your regular
> Intranet and the ICC subnet, perhaps the operator messed up the
> multi-homing and your tm3270 session is going through the wrong
> connection.
>
> If your ICC subnet connects into the rest of your Intranet, perhaps the
> operator did something to mess up that routing.
>
> I don't know much about this, except some reading towards (hopefully)
> getting a z9, so these are mostly guesses.
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of James M
> Sent: September 10, 2007 15:24
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
>
> the icc is on the same subnet as the bad pc.
> I will scream if this turns out to be a windows problem
>
> here's a trace of two seperate tn3270 icc connection failures.
> notice two different errors before the "terminating session"...
> any socket programmers out there willing to looks at the trace...
>
> [15:04:26.671] [1] Tracing has been enabled
> [15:04:26.671] Starting program. Mon Sep 10 15:04:26 2007  Switches
> '-p "C:\Documents and Settings\Terminal User\Application
> Data\Hummingbird\Connectivity\9.00\Profile\syjim.hep"'
> [15:04:26.671] Program Description: "HostExplorer for Win32", Version:
> 9.0.0.0, Ansi CodePage: 1252
> [15:04:26.671] Windows 2000 5.0 (Internal 3)(Build 2195) "Service Pack
> 4" OEM ID 0, Processors 1, ProcessorType 586
> [15:04:31.531] [1] Switched into NVT mode
> [15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
> [15:04:31.546] [1] WinSock Description: "WinSock 2.0", Status: "Running"
> [15:04:31.546] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
> [15:04:31.546] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
> [15:04:56.046] [1] NVT terminal type mode
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
> FF FD 28
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Blocking Receive events...
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Got DO TN3270E
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
> FF FB 28
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
> [15:04:56.062] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: -1, WSA Rc 10053, Input Size 1024
> [15:04:56.078] [1] Terminating Session
> [15:04:56.078] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0
> [15:06:59.968] [1] Tracing has been disabled
> [15:07:05.078] [1] Tracing has been enabled
> [15:07:11.921] [1] Switched into NVT mode
> [15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Initialized. Version 1.1
> [15:07:11.937] [1] WinSock Description: "WinSock 2.0", Status: "Running"
> [15:07:11.937] [1] Socket Close. Rc: -1
> [15:07:11.937] [1] Resolved 192.207.28.160 to: 192.207.28.160, Port 23
> [15:07:36.437] [1] NVT terminal type mode
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 3, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Recv completed. Data follows:
> FF FD 28
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Blocking Receive events...
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Got DO TN3270E
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Reply WILL TN3270E
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Send. Sending 3 bytes, Rc: 3. WSA Rc: 0
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Send completed. Data follows:
> FF FB 28
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Unblocking Receive events...
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Recv., Rc: 0, WSA Rc 0, Input Size 1024
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Terminating Session
> [15:07:36.453] [1] Socket Close. Rc: 0
>
> I'm particularly interested in WSA Rc 10053 and also why on the second
> failure the rc = 0
>
> -Jim
> hummingbird host explorer emulator
>
>
> On 9/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is this PC multi-homed? Does your ICC Intranet have a connection to
> your
> > regular Intranet?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf Of James M
> > Sent: September 10, 2007 14:21
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: z/VM 5.2 ICC console connection problems
> >
> > I get various results
> > sometimes I get no error
> > sometimes I get unable to connect to host
> > some times unable to find host/gateway
> >
> > I have another backup pc that is able to connect to the ICC
> > ...and on the pc that cannot connect to the icc I am able to connect
> > to vm's tcpip
> > very weird...don't know what to do
> >
> > diagnostics on the icc shows no errors
> > ibm ce is here now also scratching his head. (he also accidently
> > varied off the wrong chpid bringing down my whole ip network).
> > -Jim
> >
> > On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Then it's likely not a card but a network problem. Asymmetric
> routing
> > maybe?
> > > Do you get any errors when you try to connect?
> > >
> > > On 11/09/2007, James M < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > ping works!
> > > >
> > > > On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > That should be OK. Try to ping the IP address from the PC. Do
> > traceroute
> > > if
> > > > > you can't ping.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/09/2007, James M < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > I do not have access to all the os's that run in each lpar so
> I
> > did
> > > > > > everything from the HMC.
> > > > > > I higlighted each image one by one and configured the channel
> > path
> > > off.
> > > > > > I again highlighted each image and this time configured the
> > channel
> > > > > online.
> > > > > > FYI - the only image that is actually using the ICC chpid is
> the
> > vm
> > > > > > 5.2 system which I do have access to.
> > > > > > -jim
> > > > > > On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Let's be clear. On all LPARs:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CP VARY OFF PATH xx FROM ALL
> > > > > > > CP VARY OFF CHPID xx
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then on each LPAR:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CP VARY ON CHPID xx
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you do that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/09/2007, James M < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > OK thanks. I varied all off first and the all on.
> > > > > > > > I saw all the devices go off and come back online on
> operx.
> > > > > > > > ...but it didn't help - I still cannot connect from the pc
> > to the
> > > icc
> > > > > > > port.
> > > > > > > > I did enable the console cuu before trying.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Yes. It has to be offline to all LPARs in order to reset
> > itself.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 11/09/2007, James M < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > maybe we're getting someplace.
> > > > > > > > > > are you suggesting that I have to config path off in
> all
> > the
> > > lpars
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > then config it on in all?
> > > > > > > > > > what I did was off/on in lpar 1 - off/on lpar2 and so
> > on.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 9/10/07, Ivica Brodaric < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Did you vary it offline from all LPARs at the same
> > time?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 11/09/2007, James M < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > I did try toggling the chpid off/on in each of the
> > lpars
> > > but
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > sure it worked properly.
> > > > > > > > > > > > it went from online/online to online/standby. I
> > never did
> > > see
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > current state go to offline!
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/10/07, Rich Smrcina < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Resetting the ICC port will only affect the ICC
> > users,
> > > if
> > > > > most
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > users are coming in through VM's TCP/IP stack,
> > it's not
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > ICC.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If only your console or datacenter users use the
> > ICC,
> > > you
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > reset
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > without affecting your users.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > James M wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > device shows enabled.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot reset the port on the hmc since it's
> a
> > dual
> > > port
> > > > > card
> > > > > > > > > (icc &
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > tcpip) and that would mean dropping many vm &
> os
> > > telnet
> > > > > > > clients.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/10/07, David Kreuter <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> from the hmc try resetting the OSA port at
> the
> > chpid
> > > > > level.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>  __________________________ ____ __
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>  From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on
> behalf
> > of
> > > James M
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sent: Mon 9/10/2007 10:47 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Subject: [IBMVM] z/VM 5.2 ICC console
> > connection
> > > problems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Over the weekend an operator "I did
> > something..I
> > > don't
> > > > > know
> > > > > > > what"
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> has rendered the ICC vm console unusable.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I tried disable/enable cuu, vary off/on path
> to
> > cuu
> > > and
> > > > > > > dropping
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> session from the HMC ICC utilities menu all
> to
> > no
> > > avail.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Can someone please suggest other possible
> > solutions.
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> -Jim
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > VM Assist, Inc.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Phone: 414-491-6001
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ans Service:  360-715-2467
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rich.smrcina at vmassist.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
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