Kris never worked with me.  Perhaps I'm a bad influence.

For Fran--I think a major bad choice IBM made was to have SHUTDOWN be the end-stop-kill command for anything else other than VM. If I remember correctly, RSCS has a SHUTDOWN command. I haven't used PVM for 10 or 15 years, but I think it did or does. A PC that IBM made back in the '80s (PC3270??) used SHUTDOWN to stop it and park the hard disk. I've SHUTDOWN CP when I intended to kill RSCS. A fellow (lady) sysprog I worked with killed CP trying to stop the PC.

Another bad choice that IBM made was to have COLD as an IPL option, at least back in the olden days, without having some kind of really big nastygram coming out on the screen saying "ARE YOU REALLY SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS????". We took COLD out as an IPL choice and replaced it with a word that only the sysprogs knew.

Jim

Kris Buelens wrote:

No no, I never did.  My worst outages happened in VM/SP where a SAVESYS of
APL caused a VSE guest to abend.  Impossible? That's what I told my customer
and I SAVESYSed APL again... and VSE died again.  So I had to admit I was
the cause and started digging: the DMSSNT area for APL was in overlap with a
CP PAGE area on VMPK01, mea culpa indeed.

Nevertheless, we place SHUTDOWN in CLASS S.



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