OK. First year as a sysprog, first time running 2nd level. Had it
defined with all the classes. Logged in instead of dialed did a
SHUTDOWN. Didn't see the messages come up and did #CP SHUTDOWN. Waited,
and my phone rang, "Did you shutdown VM?" Made a few changes as soon as
the system came up.  


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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Changing privclass of SHUTDOWN

I shutdown one on purpose once. During our initial testing of VM/370
Release 2, one of my colleagues thought it was funny to force my id from
the system whenever I logged on. I managed to log on as OPERATOR and
issue a shutdown while he was in the middle of something. We were the
only ones on the system at the time, so it was not a disruption for
others.

Over the years, I have been able to accidentally cause the system to
crash enough times that I have never needed to be able to issue SHUTDOWN
from my own id :-) I have never given a 2nd-level system CLASS A,
specifically because of the dangers inherent in doing so, and generally
do not allow any id other than OPERATOR to have that privilege, not even
MAINT.  

Regards,
Richard Schuh 

-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Fran Hensler
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 9:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Changing privclass of SHUTDOWN

I have to admit that I accidently shutdown VM during one of our heaviest
usage periods:  academic registration.

I was just learning about TCPIP and the SMTP server was not working
properly so I logged onto SMTP and issued the SHUTDOWN command.
BOOM!  The sample directories for all of the TCPIP machines had
priviledge class A.  This was back at the 2.2 level.

Needless to say that got fixed quickly and I learned how to change the
priviledge class of CP SHUTDOWN.

/Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 44
years
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