We run it and OBSERVER works quite well, thank you very much, without 
interfering with *MSG.

But while we're (obliquely) discussing OBSERVER, ISTR that early on we 
were told we could have multiple observers of a userid, but that hasn't 
appeared to be the case.  Also I thought secuser and observer would both 
be settable on a userid, but that isn't true either.
--Mike
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The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]> wrote on 
08/19/2008 10:14:16 PM:

> On Wednesday, 08/20/2008 at 12:50 EDT, Rob van der Heij 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:58 PM, Alan Altmark 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ah, one of the Great Schisms.  See the 3rd from the last paragraph 
in 
> the
> > > description of *MSG in the CP Programming Services book:
> > 
> > What troubles me is that the folks in IBM who push the new automated
> > operator product seem to have missed this part of their education.
> > Apparently the documentation suggests that you can simply set secuser
> > all over the place to manage virtual machines. And as we know this
> > breaks the ability for the victim to process *MSG.
> 
> I'll have to let someone who has factual knowledge of the product answer 

> that question.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott

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