We used to do the stepped approach until zVM 4.4 or 5.1.
Originally we did CP/GCS and TCPIP then did CMS later.
That was until TCPIP became dependent on CMS. 
Now we're Big Bang believers.
If you must do stepped -remember CMS BEFORE or AT SAME TIME as TCPIP. 


 
-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:03 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4

That brings up a question. Is there any known inconsistency that will be
exposed if I upgrade the CP from 5.2 to 5.3 first? Big Bang is not to my
liking at this time?  

Regards,
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:15 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4
> 
> On Thursday, 10/30/2008 at 10:13 EDT, Edward M Martin 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >      But I thought that TCP/IP and CMS were tied to each other level
> wise.  
> > They work on different levels but there could be inconsistencies.
> 
> You are correct.  A particular release may include a TCP/IP change 
> that depends on a new CMS function that depends on a new CP function. 
> Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  If a service that TCP/IP or one of its 
> servers needs isn't present in CP and/or CMS, that app will typically 
> stop.  We try to do it gracefully and it is our general rule to check 
> for the availability of a new service when the server starts - not 
> waiting until it is actually needed.  This way the error appears right

> away.
> 
> If you don't do a big bang:
> 1. Upgrade CP
> 2. Upgrade CMS
> 3. Upgrade TCP/IP with all of its attendent servers
> 
> What is underneath needs to be newer than what rides on top.  
> We do our best to make this work if it's reasonable to do so, but 
> there are limits.
> E.g. When the SSL support for z/VM 5.4 ships later this year, it will 
> not work with an old stack and the new stack will not work with the 
> old SSL server.  The expense of making it work was prohibitive.
> 
> Within reason we'll support a mixed configuration while you are 
> migrating.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
> 
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