I was thinking more like CP only and then get started on z/VM 5.4. Thus
the question about known inconsistencies of introducing 5.3's CP.  

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4
> 
> We used to do the stepped approach until zVM 4.4 or 5.1.
> Originally we did CP/GCS and TCPIP then did CMS later.
> That was until TCPIP became dependent on CMS. 
> Now we're Big Bang believers.
> If you must do stepped -remember CMS BEFORE or AT SAME TIME as TCPIP. 
> 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 2:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4
> 
> That brings up a question. Is there any known inconsistency 
> that will be exposed if I upgrade the CP from 5.2 to 5.3 
> first? Big Bang is not to my liking at this time?  
> 
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:15 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: TCPIP for z/VM 5.4
> > 
> > On Thursday, 10/30/2008 at 10:13 EDT, Edward M Martin 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > >      But I thought that TCP/IP and CMS were tied to each 
> other level
> > wise.  
> > > They work on different levels but there could be inconsistencies.
> > 
> > You are correct.  A particular release may include a TCP/IP change 
> > that depends on a new CMS function that depends on a new CP 
> function.
> > Sometimes yes, sometimes no.  If a service that TCP/IP or 
> one of its 
> > servers needs isn't present in CP and/or CMS, that app will 
> typically 
> > stop.  We try to do it gracefully and it is our general 
> rule to check 
> > for the availability of a new service when the server starts - not 
> > waiting until it is actually needed.  This way the error 
> appears right
> 
> > away.
> > 
> > If you don't do a big bang:
> > 1. Upgrade CP
> > 2. Upgrade CMS
> > 3. Upgrade TCP/IP with all of its attendent servers
> > 
> > What is underneath needs to be newer than what rides on top.  
> > We do our best to make this work if it's reasonable to do so, but 
> > there are limits.
> > E.g. When the SSL support for z/VM 5.4 ships later this 
> year, it will 
> > not work with an old stack and the new stack will not work with the 
> > old SSL server.  The expense of making it work was prohibitive.
> > 
> > Within reason we'll support a mixed configuration while you are 
> > migrating.
> > 
> > Alan Altmark
> > z/VM Development
> > IBM Endicott
> > 
> ************************************************************
> This communication, including attachments, is for the 
> exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, 
> confidential and/or privileged information.  If you are not 
> the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, 
> dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited.  If you 
> are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender 
> immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and 
> destroy all copies.
> ************************************************************
> 

Reply via email to