On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 01:01:56 -0500, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:

>What sort of information about the SSL session is useful to an app?  We
>have thrown around the idea of an ibmsockopt or ioctl that would tell th
e
>app whether or not the session is protected and, if so, by what encrypti
on
>suite.  (The info is available in the Pascal API, but not C.)
>
>Supporting client-side certificates is only useful (IMO) if you have a w
ay
>to correlate the client cert to a user ID registry.
>
>I think that it is safe to say that "soon" would not be an adjective to
>use in this case.
>
>Alan Altmark
>z/VM Development
>IBM Endicott
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That's a really good question. The developers asked me the same question.
 I'm not a security 
expert, so I'm not sure I know the answer. (The developers work for Infor
mation Security, but are 
not a part of IS.)

For the particular project we are working on, the "client" was actually a
nother server, and the data 
was userids and passwords. 

The most important thing they want to do is to make sure the the data was
 actually encrypted. 
Otherwise, someone could have changed it, or stolen it. It seems probable
 that knowing the 
number of bits of encryption, (128 or 168) would be valuable. Perhaps als
o the cipher suite -- but 
they seem to have multiple names, so that is confusing.

They want to use client certificates to be sure the passwords were being 
sent by one of their own 
servers, and not some interloper. These are not "personal" ceritificates,
 and might not appear in a 
registry. (Or thy might.)

They also seemed to want information about all levels of certificate (we 
have 4). We are out own 
CA, so they were not interested in the standard certificates built-in to 
a web browser or server.

Beyond that I cannot help, although I could go ask questions. 

I think we do have a way to correlate userids to client certificates. It 
might be Active Directory or 
LDAP based. When we were working on the z/VM 5.3.0 ESP, we were told we D
O NOT want to use 
LDAP, but only Active Directory. But last month I was told we are migrati
ng our cMTA (Corporate 
Mail Transfer Agent) to an "LDAP=based" one. I'm not at all clear what 
that means. I guess I will go 
ask.

Alan Ackerman
Alan (dot) Ackerman (at) Bank of America (dot) com 

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