Sounds like IBM SW distribution has screwed up.
Maybe a PMR is in order (I have nowhere to put an iso and IBM probably wouldn't 
like that anyway :)

Marcy

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That was one of my first thoughts also.. but the install DVDs are in single 
disc packages and no other DVDs in the box.  We went thought it again today 
with the old "fine tooth comb"..  What is "interesting" is that we did find the 
RSU "Cover Letter",  Unfortunately that does not help us much...

And again, my coworker has the same problem on a  zVM system  for which the 
product package box was shipped the same day.

Sure would be nice if there was an .ISO of the RSU available for
download...    (  hint, hint.....)

Mike
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I thought the RSU always shipped with it.   Are you sure it's not one of
those double jewel cases with both in one container?

Marcy

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At this point, prior to (successfully) running INSTVM, three is only a skeletal 
MAINT plus OPERATOR, so there is no TCPIP or any other services.
I think the DVD install would have worked fine, If I had the RSU to use at the 
appropriate time...  At least, I think/hope that is what the base problem is...

Mike

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Hi Mike. Pretty long thread and I may of missed an email. It appears that you 
are able to get VM IPLed? Is TCPIP working enough to do FTP's? IF so I would 
order 5.4 again using shopzseries load it to a CMS disk and install a complete 
new VM system on new volumes using that method. This method is more common and 
worked very well for me.

Hans

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We turned the product box upside down and inside out looking for the RSU.
We got both CKD (3390) And FBA/SCSI install DVDs, but no RSU.

I don't suppose anyone could make an .ISO of the 5402RSU available for fast 
download, could they??

Thanks
Mike
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Mike,

> 1. It seems to me that in the past the product package as shipped from
> IBM included the latest RSU on whatever media the system was ordered
> on (in our case, DVD).  But there was no RSU in any form in the shipment.

Really?  Are you *sure* that there weren't two DVDs in the case? As long as 
I've been installing VM from DVD and writing about it (5.1-5.4), I have always 
received two DVD discs. INSTDVD copies the majority of the first DVD, then asks 
for the second and copies the first RSU to the MAINT 500 disk. In the 
Virtualization Cookbook, we wrote this step:

  "You are asked to place the system RSU in the drive. Insert the "z/VM Stacked
  Recommended Service Upgrade 5401" DVD into the HMC DVD-ROM drive"

One time Somebody told me that the second DVD can be skipped if you plan to put 
a later RSU on. Well that didn't work - I had to configure TCPIP to get the 
next RSU over to MAINT 500.  Well things went downhill from there because TCPIP 
was configured incorrectly by running on a system without the RSU shipped with 
the media (I'm pretty sure that was 5.3). We ended up reinstalling from 
scratch.  The lesson I took away from that exercise is to always-always-always 
use both DVDs when installing VM via INSTDVD.

So if you don't have the second RSU disc, I'd recommend getting it, and 
installing again. (but I don't speak for IBM).

Hope this helps.


"Mike MacIsaac" <[email protected]>   (845) 433-7061


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