At some point that may work. I don't think that I'll be speaking "out of school" by relating that when I was trying to install Linux from the HMC as part of the z/VM 5.4.0 E.S.P. I tried using a 16G flash drive via the HMC's USB port. No joy. I could see the directories and files, but not open the files.
At that time the z10 GA1 HMC drivers only supported (read: tested and supported) three different flash drives, the largest at that time was only 1G. "System z Hardware Management Console Operations Guide Version 2.10.1" (SC28-6873-00) updated May 5, 2009 reports: The supported USB flash memory drives are: - IBM USB 2.0 High Speed Memory Key - 128MB (part number 22P9229) - Lenovo USB 2.0 Memory Key - 512MB (part number 40Y8596) - Lenovo USB 2.0 Security Memory Key - 1GB (part number 41U5118)." Good luck restoring even a single 3390-3 only 1G at a time. But it has been almost a year since then -- perhaps the HMC USB drivers have been updated to support larger flash drives. IBM sells some very large flash drives now, you'd think that the latest, greatest monster IBM mainframe server would support flash drives that little laptops can handle, right? :-) Let us know how you fare with larger flash drives. Be sure that your actually try to open the files, not just see the directory list of them. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. "Mike At HammockTree" <[email protected]> Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <[email protected]> 06/19/2009 09:12 AM Please respond to "The IBM z/VM Operating System" <[email protected]> To [email protected] cc Subject Re: Using DVD to restore an existing z/VM? A couple of "interesting" aspects of this "boot from the USB" idea.... The z10, which is where the "boot from DVD" is supported, comes with a HMC that has both the DVD and a couple of USB ports. USB is supported as an inport/export device for configuration files. The HMC runs Linux and Linux treats the DVD and USB in a very similar manner (from the user perspective). So "conceptually"(!) it should be a relatively simple move from booting from DVD to booting from USB. With 16, 32, and even 64 GB USB flash drives these days, there are all kinds of possibilities for having very portable systems. Mike Hammock ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward M Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 10:02 AM Subject: Re: Using DVD to restore an existing z/VM? I am voting for the USB D/R tool. What type of requirement do we have to create? Ed Martin Aultman Health Foundation 330-363-5050 ext 35050 -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Huegel, Thomas Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Using DVD to restore an existing z/VM? I am liking the USB port idea even more. How cool would it be to walk into a D/R site with just a couple of thumb drives in your pocket to restore your whole z/VM system? -----Original Message----- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System on behalf of Alan Altmark Sent: Thu 6/18/2009 5:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Using DVD to restore an existing z/VM? On Thursday, 06/18/2009 at 03:45 EDT, Dave Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > Alan, I said to simply document the procedure....not that the procedure > itself was simple....:-) I know what you said. :-) The procedure for building a DVD image includes tools that you don't have, so you would then ask for the tools. But the procedure and tools have value. And down the rabbit hole we go.... I KNOW how this story ends. :-) > Maybe the good Dr. Boyes could write up and submit the requirement to > WAVV....? You could, but I would like to gently suggest that it isn't going to happen. If you want to be able to have a system that is recoverable from the DVD drive, then that is the requirement to levy. And since it is a function of backup/DR, it properly belongs to the backup products. But keep in mind that its all part and parcel of the larger requirement to get z/VM to support storage devices other than SCSI disk, ECKD, FBA, and 3590 tape. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
