Thanks. I already found out by trial and error.

Regards, 
Richard Schuh 

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 1:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install
> 
> Richard,
> MPUT accepts wildcards.
> 
> Please let us know how using the VM FTP server works out.  I 
> tried it with z/VM 5.1.0, and it wasn't very happy with the 
> lack of file types on the input files.  I don't recall the 
> exact details, but things could certainly have changed since then.
>                                                               
>                                                              
> Dennis O'Brien
> 
> "See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and 
> gunpowder... And gasoline! Do you know what all of these 
> things have in common? They're cheap!"  -- Heath Ledger as 
> The Joker, in The Dark Knight
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 09:34
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install
> 
> And to make matters worse, the only local FTP server I can 
> use is the one on VM. That makes uploading hundreds or 
> thousands of files a real pain. If only the distribution had 
> an option of some VM-friendly format in addition to the DVD. 
> 
> Is that APARable, Alan? 
> 
> A non-VM question for the list. Since the WinXP Help for FTP 
> is less than forthcoming, is it possible to use wildcards in 
> PUT or MPUT from XP (client) to VM(server)?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Richard Schuh 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chip Davis
> > Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 8:38 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: z/VM 6.1 Install
> > 
> > As someone whose first VM install was BSEPP, if that is the 
> _simpler_ 
> > process, it makes me think IBM should hire some 
> Microsofties to design 
> > a new system install mechanism. (Their OS may not _work_ 
> when you get 
> > done, but the install is a relative breeze.)
> > 
> > Seriously, the "easy" way takes three different operating 
> systems to 
> > upgrade one of them?  I think I see Richard's
> > problem: he was only using two ... :-/
> > 
> > -Chip-
> > 
> > On 2/2/10 00:57 O'Brien, Dennis L said:
> > > Richard,
> > > 
> > > I think the TERSnnnn files are the RSU.  My order 
> download link has 
> > > expired, so I can't go back and check.  The install files
> > are in ZIP
> > > format.  I have four ZIP files:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > cd813250.zip contains the system image DVD install files
> > for CKD DASD.
> > > 
> > > CD813260.ZIP contains the system image DVD install files
> > for FBA DASD.  
> > > I probably won't use this one, but I grabbed it just in
> > case we build
> > > an all-SAN system.
> > > 
> > > CD813270.ZIP contains the system image DVD RSU install
> > files for both
> > > CKD and FBA DASD.
> > > 
> > > K5T70543.ZIP contains the documentation, in both
> > BookManager and PDF format.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I haven't installed z/VM 6.1.0, yet, but I went through the same 
> > > process with z/VM 5.4.0.  I unzipped the install and RSU 
> files, and 
> > > put all the CKD files in a directory on my PC.  I then used
> > Samba to
> > > upload the files to a Linux guest.  The nice thing about
> > Samba is that
> > > I can use Windows cut-and-paste to copy the files.  If 
> the transfer 
> > > gets interrupted, it's easy to pick up where I left off.  I
> > work from
> > > home, so the upload takes about 16 hours.  I didn't have any 
> > > interruptions with 5.4.0, but I have had them when
> > uploading earlier
> > > releases.  Once I have the files on Linux, I either install
> > from the
> > > Linux FTP server, or use FTP to copy the files to a CMS
> > minidisk.  For
> > > either approach, I follow the instructions in the manual.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >                                                             
> >                                          
> > >                       Dennis
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > "See, I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and 
> gunpowder... 
> > > And gasoline! Do you know what all of these things have 
> in common? 
> > > They're cheap!"  -- Heath Ledger as The Joker, in The Dark Knight
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > *From:* The IBM z/VM Operating System
> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > *On Behalf Of *Schuh, Richard
> > > *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2010 16:39
> > > *To:* [email protected]
> > > *Subject:* [IBMVM] z/VM 6.1 Install
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I feel like a fish out of water. I ordered z/VM 6.1 to be 
> delivered 
> > > electronically, which may have been a mistake.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > *         I have downloaded to the PC, and uploaded to a VM 
> > disk, the
> > > files pointed to by the notification letter. These were 
> files that 
> > > have TERSnnnn file types. The recfm/blksize are F/1024.
> > > 
> > > *         I DETERSEd the ones identified as the System DDR. 
> >  These files
> > > are V/4095.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Now what?  I find conflicting instructions. Depending on
> > where I look, I
> > > see (1) no DETERSE step, which cannot be right for these
> > files, with   
> > > instructions that say that the files must be fixed/1028, 
> which fits 
> > > neither the before nor after DETERSE lrecl, or (2) the
> > DETERSE step is
> > > included followed by a reference to a non-existent manual.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I see no reason to DETERSE the other files until I have, as Paul 
> > > Harvey used to say, "the rest of the story." That will 
> only give me 
> > > more files that I will probably have to erase when I must
> > try some different
> > > download.     
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I opened an ETR after running around in circles until I was
> > dizzy on
> > > the support web site pointed to by the notification letter. 
> > I have no
> > > idea when I will get a response. The list is usually
> > faster. Please Help!!!
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Richard Schuh
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > 
> 

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