Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected data' owned by
some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems that the high level security
effort belongs in those OS's. z/VM just needs to keep those systems isolated
and NOT be able to circumvent their security procedures.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Les Koehler <[email protected]> wrote:

> Back in the old days, I recall a finance type person saying something like:
> The Gold Standard is that it should take collusion between two or more
> people to defraud the company.
>
> If we apply that to IT, then shouldn't pswds for privileged userids that
> can access/change financial data be long enough that TWO sysprogs can each
> be given half a pswd so they both have to be present to make a change?
>
> Les
>
>
> Alan Altmark wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, 12/09/2010 at 12:01 EST, Tom Huegel <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has come up with
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> destroy the American economy, and in fact the American way of life.
>>>
>>
>> When you read the law, you find that SOX is "simply" a way to hold
>> executives responsible for the financial statements issued by their
>> companies.  Assuming no ill intent (no comments, please!), that means
>> trustworthy data.  That flows downhill, as all such things must, until we
>> start talking about access controls and audit mechanisms for financial data.
>>  That is, knowing who has the means and the opportunity to access the data,
>> and knowing who has actually done so.  (I leave it to others to talk about
>> motive.)  Who, what, where, when.
>>
>> Unfortunately, IT security industry consultants have mangled this laudable
>> concept into a paranoia-inducing behemoth that has people screaming in
>> terror as it rampages across the country, flogging every sysadmin in its
>> path.  Why?  Because financial status is inferred from many other data
>> sources and no one wants to spend the time it takes to follow all the data
>> flows.  Result: Secure Everything.
>>
>> With HIPAA and PCI running alongside, the "Secure Everything" policy looks
>> even more reasonable to CEOs, CIOs, CFOs, and their lawyers.
>>
>> Alan Altmark
>>
>> z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
>> IBM System Lab Services and Training 
>> ibm.com/systems/services/labservicesoffice: 607.429.3323
>> [email protected]
>> IBM Endicott
>>
>>

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