I loved CMS many years ago. I no longer work for a company with z/VM. Haven't 
for years. Using CMS and RSCS to submit jobs to MVS (yes, that long ago - MVS 
3.8!) was so much better than TSO it wasn't even funny. Now I'm using a Linux 
desktop and writing code which allows me to use it for some things instead of 
TSO. OpenSSH is really helping on that. But I'm getting off-topic.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:53 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?
> 
> Some companies in the past preferred to confine application 
> programmers to CMS due to the large overhead of TSO address 
> spaces thereby realizing savings in CPU and storage. 
> 
> CMS is not as well liked as TSO/ISPF by application 
> programmers, but given CPU price sensitivity these days, it 
> may not be such a bad idea and, who knows, it might even 
> convert them z/VM. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Munson <[email protected]> 
> Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]> 
> 
> 12/10/2010 10:57 AM 
> Please respond to
> The IBM z/VM Operating System <[email protected]>
> 
> To
> [email protected] 
> cc
> Subject
> Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?
> 
>       
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tom, 
> 
> as Mike said there are a lot of companies I know of that are 
> using "CMS" applications for day to day work and the DATA 
> resides on "VM" 
> 
> they are using "FOCUS" for report generation , as well as 
> "MAILBOOK" for e-mail and interoffice file transfers , and 
> some are using VM:Backup and VM:Archive and the Shared File 
> System for numerous versions of Source Code like GDG's on TSO 
> and submitting their compiles and assembles to VM:Batch for 
> processing.  There is still a lot of WORK being done on "VM" 
> and these companies are not running any other "OS" as a guest 
> of these "VM" systems.  They might and do have other "VM"'s 
> for running LINUX or "VSE" .     
> 
> Granted it is a vast minority of what it was 10, 15, and 20 
> years ago. 
> 
> munson 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:        Tom Huegel <[email protected]> 
> To:        [email protected] 
> Date:        12/10/2010 09:16 AM 
> Subject:        Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? 
> Sent by:        The IBM z/VM Operating System 
> <[email protected]> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected 
> data' owned by some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems 
> that the high level security effort belongs in those OS's. 
> z/VM just needs to keep those systems isolated and NOT be 
> able to circumvent their security procedures.  
> 
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Les Koehler 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: 
> Back in the old days, I recall a finance type person saying 
> something like: The Gold Standard is that it should take 
> collusion between two or more people to defraud the company.
> 
> If we apply that to IT, then shouldn't pswds for privileged 
> userids that can access/change financial data be long enough 
> that TWO sysprogs can each be given half a pswd so they both 
> have to be present to make a change?
> 
> Les 
> 
> 
> Alan Altmark wrote: 
> On Thursday, 12/09/2010 at 12:01 EST, Tom Huegel 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: 
> Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has 
> come up with 
> to 
> destroy the American economy, and in fact the American way of life. 
> 
> When you read the law, you find that SOX is "simply" a way to 
> hold executives responsible for the financial statements 
> issued by their companies.  Assuming no ill intent (no 
> comments, please!), that means trustworthy data.  That flows 
> downhill, as all such things must, until we start talking 
> about access controls and audit mechanisms for financial 
> data.  That is, knowing who has the means and the opportunity 
> to access the data, and knowing who has actually done so.  (I 
> leave it to others to talk about motive.)  Who, what, where, when.
> 
> Unfortunately, IT security industry consultants have mangled 
> this laudable concept into a paranoia-inducing behemoth that 
> has people screaming in terror as it rampages across the 
> country, flogging every sysadmin in its path.  Why?  Because 
> financial status is inferred from many other data sources and 
> no one wants to spend the time it takes to follow all the 
> data flows.  Result: Secure Everything.
> 
> With HIPAA and PCI running alongside, the "Secure Everything" 
> policy looks even more reasonable to CEOs, CIOs, CFOs, and 
> their lawyers.
> 
> Alan Altmark
> 
> z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant
> IBM System Lab Services and Training 
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