John, You must be right, mentally misfiled again.
Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip C270 LE #184 MMSI 366901790 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Guttridge Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Clews and Cringles was: RE: [IC27A] Re: Was Jib Sheets > Barber Hauler Isnt it called a cringle? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cringle that pulls up a lot of Google results http://www.google.com/search?q=sail+cringle I think you are right on the definition of Clew. The clew could be thought to refer to the specific cringle in question or the part of the sail where it is located (I have always thought of it as the clew cringle, the clew being that corner). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_of_a_sail OTOH all of Wikipedia was written by people who think they know so grains of salt may be appropriate in places. Best, John From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Phil Agur Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [IC27A] Re: Was Jib Sheets > Barber Hauler Interesting, having done a little research on cringe and sail terms this morning it appears to be a dieing term. Clew is certainly the position but in my mind that's not a sail grommet but a cringe the sheets are attached through. Google only pulled it up a few times being used in that context and one of those was an article of mine. It's probably used in the Sail maker's Apprentice. Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip C270 LE #184 MMSI 366901790 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Leroy Gordon Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IC27A] Re: Was Jib Sheets > Barber Hauler --- In [email protected], "Phil Agur" <pja...@...> wrote: > Phil I lost you at " sail cringe". can u clear that up? I am thinking maybe "Clew" was meant?// Leroy > Bob, > > > > If you're not sure a closer sheeting angle is worth the effort, then why not > try a closer sheeting angle using a barber hauler. I've always rigged them > on my (racing) boats prior to the C270.** > > > > In the beginning they had elegant free running SS clips to attach the barber > hauler to the sheets. The barber haul line went to a fairlead and then to a > Harken 150 cam cleat. In the end it was just a very short piece line tied to > the sail cringe and a well positioned Harken 150. > > > > Such devices can't violate the reality of a polar performance chart (i.e. > higher angle sails slower), but if you need a few degrees of pointing angle > to force a windward boat to tack away to clear your air it's great. > > > > If you want to see what an inside track would do just pull the clew the 6 > 8 inches you'd gain with the inside track. It doesn't take much force to > divert the line a few degrees; just don't try tacking with a short line > barber hauler set. > > > > Phil Agur > <http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm> s/v Wing Tip > C270 LE #184 MMSI 366901790 > > > > ** C270s sheet to the cabin top stock so they point extremely high as > delivered. Sailing at 15° is posible but slow. > > > > > > Hi Leroy, > > I use a 110% sail most of the time, and use the outboard track. I feel that > an inboard track might allow me to point a bit higher, but I am not sure > that adding a new inboard track would be worth the effort. > > Bob Stockley > Sundance #2436 >
