Way ta go Dick!!
-----Original Message----- From: Dick Holmes <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 4:54 pm Subject: Re: [IC27A] Two Questions Encore has the "tilt into the lazarette" style of outboard. The PO had to do surgery on the lazarette hatch to get his Honda 4-stroke fully tilted up. I replaced the Honda with a Tohatsu 6 4-stroke and had to do a bit more surgery. The hole is covered by a piece of canvas that matches the other canvas on the boat. The surgery doesn't seem to have materially weakened the hatch, but then I don't let people sit back there (slows the boat down :-). I tilt the outboard up by hand. No extension or remote on the controls. One gotcha is that the Tohatsu has it's steering/throttle arm in an awkward position and I can turn the motor to the right but not the left (the handle hits the opening in the transom). I believe someone suggested the "burst of power, then coast" method of turning while backing, and that seems to work well enough for me. For what it's worth, I get about 10+ nmpg at 5 knots and can get home from Ensenada (125 miles) on the two 6.5 gallon tanks stowed in the lazarette. Dick Encore Dana Point [email protected] wrote: I will take my trusty Niko n out to the boat, perhaps as early as tomorrow. I want to race, but Mother Nature may bring rain. I still have not checked for my numbers in the "proper" location on the stern. I need to do that before getting on the boat list. John McLaughlin Shambhala 1975 SR #1994 -----Original Message----- From: Joe McCary <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 1:31 pm Subject: RE: [IC27A] Two Questions John, I would be interested in seeing some photos of your arrangement (the hatch espically). Joe McCary Aeolus II, West River, MD www.aeoluswestriver.net joe at photoresponse dot com From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IC27A] Two Questions My OB is a Honda 1985 BF100 4 stroke. It tips up into the lazerette. Over the years, the PO has sprung the aft hinges on the lazerette as the engine does jut up a fraction of an inch when all the way up. I plan to pull out the hinges and do some glass shim work to raise the20aft edge of the lazerette to take care of this. I do not need help in tilting the engine. John McLaughlin Shambhala 1975 SR# 1994 -----Original Message----- From: Joe McCary <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:16 pm Subject: RE: [IC27A] Two Questions Does your engine tilt into the lazerette? Is the Honda a 4 stroke or 2? Mine is a 4 stroke and there is no way it would fit the “hole” in the stern. MY PO had a custom bracket built that mo ves the engine about 16-18” aft and at the same position as the original mounting position. It has drawbacks, one I can NOT reach the engine controls (I do have a remote control in the cockpit) and need to use a block and tackle to tilt the engine. As I said, it is not the best system but it works. I have 2 lines to move the tilt/lock lever. Joe McCary Aeolus II, West River, MD www.aeoluswestriver.net joe at photoresponse dot com From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 20 09 11:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IC27A] Two Questions 0A I use a combo of this technique with a Honda 9.9 mounted right on the transom (no bracket) and fairly accessible in the lazerette. The m otor can be steered and I can use a combo of tiller and pointing the engine. The make way and then use it to steer via tiller with the motor in neutral does work well in some situations. John Shambhala SR #1994 -----Original Message----- From: Joe McCary <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 9:40 am Subject: RE: [IC27A] Two Questions Steering with an outboard (that doesn’t turn) on the stern can be a problem and takes practice. I have a Honda 9.9 mounted on a custom bracket so it is about 18” aft of the transom. To steer I gun the en gine (high revs) in reverse. Then20slip into neutral. While in Neutral I can steer, then in reverse again and gun it again, back to neutral, etc… Not the best of methods but it works =0 A Joe McCary Aeolus II, West River, MD www.aeoluswestriver.net joe at photoresponse dot com From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of timothy nathan Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IC27A] Two Questions 0A Thanks. I have an outboard mounted on the transom. I was just curious how others with outboards steer. I use to work on lakes in the summer in a john boat and steerage wasn't an issue. you just steer the outboard. I have also taken numerous classes on inboards where you try to use propwalk, etc. Now I have an outboard that I can't steer easily and was curious what others do. Do you try to steer the outboard? DO you treat it like an inboard and try to use propwalk. It is just an set up I am not familiar with. THanks for any comments. --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Phil Agur <[email protected]> wrote: From: Phil Agur <[email protected]> Subject: [IC27A] Two Questions To: [email protected] Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 8:45 PM Backing an inboard is easy. A center mounted OB would be better but the prop wash on the rudder blade can 20be problematic without a wheel. See also steerage way. /span> The trick is to spend as little time as possible between being motionless and having steerage way. The rudder on the C270 makes everything related to maneuvering a dream so I tend to forget I also monitor wind and current before backing. I plan the maneuver to go with what’s going to happen instead of gunning it to get steerage way or being surprised and trying over react to gain control again. Since a C270 can be spun in her own length (ok 30ft +) there are times when you go with it and then do a 180 in place to head out. The problem with outboard maneuvering is I don’t think you can spin the boat in its own length, which is a big disadvantage. Maybe a center mounted OB has a chance if it has handy remote controls. I’d be glad to explain how, if someone wants to give it a try. Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip C270 LE #184 MMSI 366901790 =2 0 __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 2945 (20080313) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com/ a> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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