"Positive Earth" systems died, (not nearly soon enough in my estimation) about 
the time that emissions controls requirements more or less killed low price 
British imports into the US. This happened in the early 70's.
Please, please, do not get me started on Lucas electrical systems on vintage 
English cars.

Keith Sneddon
#4760, "Do the Lights Work Yet?"

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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 1:56 PM
To: [email protected]
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Yes - a common terminology is very useful.

My comments were to attempt to help a non-electrical person make the
transition from things where we can see things (water and pipes) and often have
to deal with them, to the world where the energy things can't be seen.

- - - -

Perhaps my wording also is biassed by the Morris Minor 1000 that I owned
back in 1960-1965, which had a positive ground. as did most English cars at
that time - the Lucas system.

I now have a 1978 Petter diesel engine in my 27' Catalina, which has a
negative grounded 12V system.

Does anyone recall when the positive ground systems "faded" away?


In a message dated 2/12/2010 1:07:18 P.M. US Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected]<mailto:rahseln%40comcast.net> writes:

*** (Please, this is Meant to be taken with a Touch of Humor.. !! )

While I know This Rant of mine, is Nothing in the grand scheme of Life and
The Cosmos..
But, When we are speaking of Electrical things.. And Particularly when
speaking Boat DC (Direct Current),
Could we all speak the same language? MOST preferably the correct language
?.
It would make solving problems Much Much easier.

Let's take the case of the Lowly cables, wires, connectors, power sources
..and the energy within..

There are TWO Polarities of DC... One is termed POSITIVE and the other
NEGATIVE. Both Very good words.

The one called POSITIVE should be called Positive...
NOT... the "Hot" or the "Main" or "Source".... Just the Positive

The other is called the NEGATIVE and should always be referred to as the
NEGATIVE....
NEVER....!! " GROUND " or "COMMON " or, god forbid,.... " RETURN "

While "Plus" and/or "Minus" for Positive and Negative might be acceptable
to some, They too can be confusing terms to others.
Positive and Negative .. Leave no doubt as to what they are

I'm sure one can see the simplicity of using only those Two words.
As an example:
One can say " I checked the Negative wire" and everyone will know what one
did.

Don't get me started on terms like... Grommet vs. Cringle --- Stern Rail
vs. Pushpit (ugh) --- Ground, Ground Plane or Counterpoise.

In good Humor.. I...
Thank you,

Ralph Ahseln
"Oblio"
Lying, Hayden Bay Marina, Portland OR

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