Hi Ron,

 

I've never heard of this problem on a newer 270, so this maybe a wild goose
chase, but I and a few other owners have run into a strikingly similar
problem. 

 

There is a vacuum breaker at the top of the loop between the heat exchanger
and the water injection port on the exhaust elbow. On the older C270s this
was on the port side wall of the engine compartment as high as it could go
and still put the rear engine cover in place. On the new boats the hoses
punched through the wall so the vacuum breaker could be installed several
inches higher under the galley sink.  

 

Here's why: When the engine is shut off the raw water in the heat exchanger
is cool to cold as it was just pumped in there. As soon as the pump stops
two things happen: a) the vacuum breaker opens and b) the cool to cold water
warms and expands as it comes up to engine running temperature. The result
when the loop is low enough is that the volume of water created by expansion
slowly burbles out the expansion breaker. 

 

It seems to me it was about a cup. Clean it up after the engine cools and it
would stay gone until the engine was warmed up and cut off again.

 

On Wing Tip this water followed the hose until it contacted the wiring
harness that swung back around towards the terminal block over transmission
and then fell off the low point before the harness went back up to the
terminal block.

 

I have a really cool SS carbon fiber shaft seal installed because I wrongly
concluded that the wet spot by the transmission tail had to come from the
packing gland. It wasn't until I employed a grid drawn with a water soluble
marker that it was clear the water dropped in right here and ran forward.

 

My cure was to exchange the cap to the Forespar vacuum breaker from a plain
opening to one with a hose fitting. I connected a hose which I ran through
the bulkhead into the galley cabinet space so when it burbles it heads for
the bilge not down wiring and into the engine pan. One of the other owners
paid a boat yard to move the vacuum loop to a high location. I was just
happy to have a dry engine pan so it wouldn't mask any new leaks.

 

Phil Agur
<http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm> s/v Wing Tip 
C270 LE #184            MMSI 366901790 



 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
Ginter
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [IC27A] water under engine

 

  

Hi All,

We finally got some decent breeze, and after sailing heeled over, I noticed
water on the floor at the galley. We had been heeling to port. I pulled the
front engine cover and found water standing in the little tray under the
engine. It had been fine until the boat tipped enough to spill some out onto
the floor. Can I safely assume that this is from the packing gland leaking
when first put into the water? And that it will stop now that it's good and
wet again?

I dried out the tray to keep an eye on it, and also the bilge. Should the
water have drained into the bilge? There are 3 little holes at the front of
the tray under the engine, maybe they are plugged?

Also, I'm uncertain about the bilge pump wiring. When I bought the boat I
was told that if I left the bilge pump rocker switch on auto, then it would
run as needed regardless of any other setting. Then someone else told me
that I had to have the bilge pump toggle switch turned on in order for the
pump to work automatically. After drying out the bilge last night, I tried
lifting the switch in the bilge, and found that it wouldn't turn on when I
lifted it unless the toggle switch was on, and that the auto setting on the
black rocker switch seemed to do nothing. This don't seem right!

It's a C270, 2004 vintage.



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