On 1/28/07, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Janice,
>
> I was looking through some old pictures and found these pictures of your
> lovely Nasi  - I took these when we visited you in late May 2006.  He's such
> a pretty blue dun!  This must be his true color since in May, when I took
> these pictures, he would have been freshly shed, and not at all faded.  ;)
>
> Is he fully over his surgery?
>
> Karen Thomas
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


I love those pics karen!  Nasi very definitely has dun factor, but I
would say he is at the darkest end of the spectrum on it.  But he has
the blacker points, was dna tested black, no cream or bay allele.
Black with no bay and no cream that is lighter can be faded black, and
"false dun" exists, but I looked into this extensively online and have
found many many horses exactly nasi's color that have sired dun
offspring.  Also, some things I read on false dun sorta indicate it
goes away, or comes and goes, Nasi's dun indicators have always been
there, strong, even the shading at the withers, striping on his inner
thighs in summer when he doesnt have his winter coat to hide it etc,
dark points even with no bay allele etc.

It was 25 degrees at our house in the nite and I blanketed Gallant Boy
and curly ray, and the north wind was just howling and I looked over
and i swear icelandics come into their own when it is freezing cold!
That wind was blowing their mane straight up and they were just
magnificent.  I noted that I clipped Tivar and Nasi the same day and
Tivar's clipped part is now evened out to exactly the color of his
outer coat, and Nasi's has darkened some, but it is not reddish yet
because of the sun and it is just a classic very very dark blue dun,
almost smokey, which he cannot be smokey black cause dna showed no
cream dilute.

It would not surprise me that Svertla is dark dun like this.  She is
registered dark dun and i saw some factor in her.

Face it.  Scientifically, blue dun IS  black with a dun modifier and
there are ALL ranges of shade from the very pale almost cream silver
to the olive and then almost black which is Nasi, and what the QH
people call "lobo dun".

I just dont get how someone can look at a picture and see a dun
stripe, see it has all the DNA testing that show it can be dun, have a
dun parent, and just flat out announce "IT IS NOT DUN".  who gives a
flyin flip??  maybe they just wanna be mean, and what for??  whats the
payoff?  Must be to vent some free floating meanness they have lying
around...

and ignorance.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo

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