>>>> Did you see any of the European 3 day eventing ?  They've now
introduced a system where a certain colour flag (i can't remember what
colour it was now) is waved to show a rider that the judges are concerned
about his/her riding & to buck up thier ideas.  I think thats a good idea
:-)


That's not bad...anything to get the riders paying attention can't hurt.
Based on the post I read on another list though (where it said that any
judge who gives a red card may well not be invited to judge again - can you
imagine?) will they use that system?  Hopefully, this hooha will make a few
judges more willing to speak up.


And, here's another idea...I wish the focus wouldn't be on  HAVING to have
an Icelandic judge all the time.  How about more of the local shows being
intended for educational and fun purposes?   Gosh, we have all sorts of
riders here in this area - western, hunters, dressage, gaited horses
(including some Spanish breeds) and you will only see one judge at many of
the open shows.  (Granted, there are some discipline shows where the judges
are specialized, and there are a few breed shows too.)    Can a QH judge in
Wranglers and a cowboy hat do as good a job judging an Arab hunter pony?
MAYBE not, but Emily certainly showed in front of several "non-English" type
judges.   Did they always place her and Thunder exactly like the hunter
judges would.  Well, probably not, but then again, most judging has some
degree of  subjectivity.  Any good judge should be able to learn the basic
rules of tack and attire, and any good judge will be able to see if the
rider is posting to the correct diagonal, if the horse gets the wrong lead,
if the horse is lame (which typically is an automatic disqualifier), if the
horse is breaking gait, if the horse is rushing or fighting the bit.   They
can also tell if the rider is rude, or the horse is tentative or dangerous.
The basics of good riding are there in all disciplines.


One of the most important things from riding in front of different judges is
that the rider can get perspective.   They may not get quite as many ribbons
(or maybe they will?) but it's always good to get an opinion from someone
"outside the box."


Over the years, I've read where several American riders (generally whose
only horse experience has been along the lines of traditional Icelandic
show-type riding) complain when they've shown at local shows...often saying
that the judges don't understand Icelandic's.  Well, some judges won't
understand gaited horses, but I've often thought that none of the judges
Emily rode in front of would have been tolerant of horses "star-gazing", or
going behind the vertical as an evasion, or of horses who break gait (and
"gait" can mean trotting instead of cantering, or doing any non-requested
gait), or horses who fight the bit, or get on the wrong lead... I think a
lot of riders would benefit from putting the drive for ribbons and accolades
on the back burner and opening themselves up to hear the perspectives of
knowledgeable horsemen of all disciplines.


I honestly can't remember a case where a non-hunter/non-dressage judge gave
Emily a placing that was totally undeserved.   If a QH judge can adequately
(if not 100% perfectly) judge an Arab hunter, why couldn't he at least
adequately judge an Icelandic...?


By the way, Mic (I think it was Mic) wrote something recently that I liked -
I don't remember where I read it.  She said she could go to any local Pony
Club show and see horses who were better accepting of the rider and the bit
than many of the WC competitors and their horses.   Boy, is that the truth!
I think we need to tell some of the big guys that they need to ride more
"like little girls"!   In this case, that's not an insult, because I know
some little girls in my community who are excellent and brave riders, on
their way to becoming real horsemen!


Karen Thomas
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