I think there are only a few problems that cause this sort of bucking.
 One is like you say, bad saddle fit.  But other reasons are fear,
anger, frustration, and sometimes simply, a balance adjustment.
because raudi's saddle fit is not an issue NOW doesnt mean bad saddle
fit in the past may not have left a pinched nerve or something.  If
you have ever had a back problem then you have an idea that in some
situations it would be unbearable to have to carry a weight on your
back.  And it could be a problem in the pelvic ligaments or something
where he has trouble balancing a rider etc.  Gosh it could be any
number of things.

I know some people are out a lot of money already on this horse but
please, I wish you would consider lowering his price to 500 or even
less to a good loving home with a person with a lot of time and all
the patience in the world to first, just let him out to pasture a few
months, then starting over completely, looking at holistic measures
such as things maybe as simple as his feed, ulcer treatments etc.  I
think there are a lot of people on these lists who could do this but
to pay that much for a horse that is so dangerous, will actually end
up killing someone if nothing changes, its just sad because it lowers
his options for a future life as a horse with a job that makes him
feel good about himself.  A horse that is loved etc.

My Stonewall tossed me a few times so bad an ambulance had to be
called once, I thought I had broke my back.  People said "now he
knows, he has LEARNED how to get a human off his back and he is
getting better and better at it. " and they would tell me to sell him.
 Well.  I have too much emotional investment in this horse to give him
away.  I only paid 1800 for him as a long yearling, but I have spent
years of emotional investment in him, paid for training etc.  and he
is an awesome, AWESOME horse!  If I had sold him at that point he
would have gone from home to home, getting more and more sour and mean
each time.  That would be a SIN on my part, a sin.  I would hunt him
the rest of my life if I did that, find him, and if I couldnt fix him
just let him live rent free in my pasture.  In the last few months I
have put a lot of saddle miles on him and he has been an angel.  If I
were to sell him I should do it NOW, not when he had a problem.(he
isnt for sell)

Someone needs to buy Raudi and work him thru this so he doesnt keep
going place to place feeling more and more unloved and less secure and
frustrated and angry each time until he is just a sour renegade.

I am sorry to say this but its how I feel.  And nothing could be
further from the truth about my stonewall btw, why would a horse try
to get a human off him when he stands and pines if I choose another
horse to ride besides him...

I hate it when people presume to know whats best for my horse but i
dont mind input, i can take what I need and leave the rest. SO please
dont take offense, I could be VERY wrong about this, but I just wanted
to say how I feel.  Raudi is a prescious, beautiful horse, but he is
dangerous, and at todays horse market prices dangerous horses go for a
lot less than 3000 WITH papers.  around here they go for around 125
and sometimes no one will even bid, and they will have WGC sire or
dam, papered, futurity horses etc.

Have you seen the horse market lately??  For 3000 I would expect a
rideable, ground trained decent horse.  Every horse has issues and
quirks.  Even the nicest horse can kill you DEAD, but only a fool or
green horse person about to be killed would pay 3000 for a registered,
known to be dangerous, bucking bronc horse.

I do have a riding friend however, who paid 20,000 for a bucking
horse.  A horse known to have bucked off every person that had ever
been on it.  Her daughter could ride ANYTHING, and they bought the
horse thinking her daughter could fix it and they could sell it for
50,000.  It was a big hanoverian and its direct brother had been sold
recently for 50,000.  After the horse launched her daughter 20 feet in
the air repeatedly, breaking some bones, they sold it to a rodeo
circuit place for 1500.  and guess what?  It never bucked again.  They
would put someone on him and he would just rear and fall over on them.
 He was just a sour ruined renegade horse...  I think they lost a lot
of money but like Besse Smith the blues singer said "heaven aint cheap
and sometimes you  are lucky if all you have to pay is money".
Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and try to find a home
where this horse can get some help.  I dont think it shoud be a case
anymore of trying to find a home where a person can be happy with him
or ride him, but a case of where can he go to be helped.  He needs
help.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo

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