--- In [email protected], "Janice McDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>> My Stonewall tossed me a few times so bad an ambulance had to be
> called once, I thought I had broke my back.  People said "now he
> knows, he has LEARNED how to get a human off his back and he is
> getting better and better at it. " and they would tell me to sell 
him.
>  

I think they can learn how to get people off, and some of them will 
keep doing it, as long as the problem is still present in their 
minds, or in their bodies. Actually my mule Celie has tossed 
someone, really bad, and tried to toss someone else. This is one of 
the reasons I really take my time with her, she is easily pushed to 
the point where she gets upset and frustrated. I really don't want 
to be tossed and she is good at it. I don't think we are going to 
have to go there if we come to terms with things together, she is 
willing when she understands what is expected. She loves attention 
on her, she has always been fussy, not the easiest personality, 
slowly she has become much easier. I really think she could get into 
trouble with the wrong person, pushing her too fast, getting 
frustrated. She got really upset when I went to move her to the new 
place recently, she just knew something was going on, and she gets 
all hyped up about it, she almost broke my nose in the stall, she 
didn't really mean to, but she goes to flight, freak out mode pretty 
quickly. Then she settles right down and seems like another animal 
in other situations. Slowly, settling down, I think one day she will 
be very dependable for me. I think she might have a personality like 
Stonewall, I feel the same way about her, I adore her. I bought her 
because I knew if I didn't, I would never get over it, I would be 
trying to find her forever. Horses are individuals and each one may 
take a different approach. I can't imagine my Icelandics acting like 
this, they don't, but it's possible that there are Icelandics out 
there who might have more of a reaction to things. 


 Raudi is a prescious, beautiful horse, but he is
> dangerous, and at todays horse market prices dangerous horses go 
for a
> lot less than 3000 WITH papers.  around here they go for around 125
> and sometimes no one will even bid, and they will have WGC sire or
> dam, papered, futurity horses etc.
> 
> Have you seen the horse market lately??  For 3000 I would expect a
> rideable, ground trained decent horse.  Every horse has issues and
> quirks.  Even the nicest horse can kill you DEAD, but only a fool 
or
> green horse person about to be killed would pay 3000 for a 
registered,
> known to be dangerous, bucking bronc horse.
> 

Horses are not getting good prices at all, I believe things really 
started to go downhill in 2003 around here, that's when I remember 
breeders saying it had taken a dive.  I have seen plenty of TWH's 
advertised around here for $500 or trade. Rocky mountains, under 
$2000, trained and safe. I think the thing to do is really be 
careful about placing a horse like this, really make sure that 
someone knows they are getting into a rehab situation, it's too bad 
that peole lose money on this, but horses are a risk, always, they 
are large animals, it does seem that a lot of people who buy 
Icelandics are new to horses, sometimes it isn't a good combination. 


Kim

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