On 9/23/07, Nancy  Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We had a very nice POA here for a while.  We were told he had bucked and
> unseated a five year old boy and was looking for a new home.  We also knew
> he'd been a lesson pony over jumps in a posh California barn and had been
> sent to Oregon to retire (age 17).  We were a little careful with him at
> first.  Our daughter weighs in at about 115 soaking wet, so she rode him
> both in the ring and on trail before we put the little girls on him.  He was
> really a nice pony.
>
> A teenage boy who feeds for us when we're away got on him twice bareback and
> got bucked off twice.
>
> Haven't a clue what this means, just an anecdote.
>
> Nancy
>

In situations of what i would call "normal" bucking, not a "bucking
problem" per se, just a horse that bucks now and then from something,
I have seen horses that bucked when transitioning to canter, and I am
like you nancy, I dont know what that means---  and when going up
and/or down a hill, which I suspect could be pain or maybe even just
exhuberance?  also balance adjustment.  My Jaspar, most deadbroke
horse on the planet offered a little halfhearted buck with me twice,
once in a spring tree icelandic saddle ironically.  I didnt even own
an icey at the time but it looked like a cool saddle, and was
affordable so I bought it.  The "spring" must have pinched is all I
can think of, and also too narrow probably...  and then the second
time was when he had a fistula coming on and I took him over a series
of small sandy hills (piles really) and he started wringing his tail
and at the last one when he started down he threw his butt up and then
stopped dead, refusing to go on.  And that was from extreme pain (my
shame).

For a horse to be a bucker for buckings sake, a "problem" bucker, I
would also agree "riding it out" is not a solution.  For one thing
even a great rider can get killed that way and for another, the horse
may be "beaten" by it then but it will show up again I believe.  I
know someone who bought a horse at auction that was drugged and sold
as a horse "a child can ride" (which hello, a child can ride anything)
turned out to be a horse that bucked off everyone that ever got on
him.

 this horse was in a paddock next to my horses and something was WRONG
with that horse.  and I think it was stomach trouble.  because he
colicked like clockwork and sometimes I would arrive to feed and he'd
be laid out like he was dead and it would take vet work and hours of
work to save him, constant sand colic treatment etc.  And then he died
mysteriously.  Was found in the morning dead, had torn out the fence,
skid marks showed he had been racing around and then tracks looked
like he had just run full blown into the fence.  No one knows if he
broke his neck or died of pain.  But something made him just run right
into the fence.

Tivar would wring his tail and walk backwards and stamp his feet and
turn to bite at my stirrup when he had a girth pinching him etc.  I
bet if he had saddle pain he woulda tried to buck.  He tried to buck
before but not with me.  So he had a history of bucking, but I can
tell you he is not or was never a renegade bronco bucking horse like
this one sounds.  But what caused it.  he needs  a couple of years
pasture rest at a loving home and then after that, starting over like
a horse that has never been worked with at all, from the ground up.
jmo.
Janice--
yipie tie yie yo

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