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> Maybe you have done all this?  But if Tosca was "grumpy" when Steph was on
> her - bucking - are you sure that Tosca wasn't just unused to the feel of 
> an
> uncoordinated rider?  and frightened/nervous about it?  She may have been
> getting a lot of conflicting signals all at once and was overwhelmed and
> confused.

Thanks Penny.  Very good advice indeed.  We have not done all of that, but 
have done some of the things you suggested and have plans for implementing 
some of the others.  The bucking came about because I put Stephanie on 
bareback with a vaulting surcingle.  Her hip flexors are so tight that she 
can't spread  her legs around the barrel of a horse so she slid way back 
over Tosca's loin.  We popped Stephanie off - she had a side-walker at each 
knee and put each of the side-walkers up instead.  Tosca bucked each time 
one of them slid back beyond her comfort level, but with the better riders 
on her, I could correct her and continue on.  We will need to find an 
appropriate saddle for Steph.

Tosca will be five in May and had had about 18 rides over about nine months, 
so she's very green.  Yrsa is not started.  She will be four next May.  She 
has been led all over and ground driven and I have sat on her.   She's been 
bathed. hauled, clipped, saddled and blanketed.  All non-events.  I'll start 
her just like I started Tosca when she turns four.  >

Nancy
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