>>> Tosca has a short thick neck and she carries it in both gaits in what I 
>>> think is a 
>>> very acceptable natural (lower than Hunter's) position.  Are there 
>>> Icelandics that 
>>> both tolt ventroflexed and trot in true collection?   I'm reasonably sure 
>>> that Tosca's 
>>> conformation would make it difficult for to use her neck as a dressage 
>>> horse needs to.



Obviously, I haven't seen every Icelandic out there, but I've never seen one 
with a neck 
suitable for medium-upper level dressage.    I'm sure a good many Icelandic's 
(most?) 
could do the Introductory and Training level-type work, and a few might go a 
level or so 
above that.   For those of us who like to "piddle around" in our backyards with 
lots of 
sports and activities, that's fine...that's plenty to keep me busy.  But it's a 
LONG way 
from levade and such...  Remember, collection is the goal of dressage, and 
collection 
tends to improve a horse's TROT...do we won't to hone our horse's trots to that 
degree...? 
I don't.  I like for my horses to trot if they are capable, but not to the 
expense of 
losing gait.  Think of the disparity - if the horse is pacey, he/she isn't 
going to be 
able to collect easily at all - not even to a minor level.  If the horse is 
trotty, I'll 
allow, even encourage him to do it, but not to the extend that it kills his 
gaits.  On the 
other hand:  There are plenty of low-level dressage goals that will help ANY 
horse, 
without getting to collection... plenty of worthwhile goals to pursue, like 
forwardness, 
relaxation, straightness, implusion...


What sickened me about the subject of dressage in Icelandic's was the change I 
saw over 
the first couple of years I had Icelandic's.  When I first joined the lists 
(just five 
years ago - I'd had Sina for a year when I joined), the prevailing attitude was 
that 
dressage is boring.   Fine, if that's not a part of the horse's history - I 
don't have the 
interest or ambition to pursue upper level dressage myself.   Then, poof, a 
year or two 
later, we started seeing a few questionable Icelander trainers showing what 
should be 
upper level type moves - warped and incorrectly done, of course.  One trainer 
was named 
Halldor  (Halldor Gisli Gudmonsson? maybe), and there was a picture on the web 
at one time 
(maybe in the Quarterly or in Tolt News too - I can't remember now) of him 
doing a 
"levade" - only it wasn't a levade.  It was more like the horse was rearing - 
no 
collection in the horse's rear.  Then, of course, there was the picture that 
Jolli (head 
instructor at the much-touted Holar college) chose for the cover of his video, 
doing what 
I've dubbed the "redneck Spanglish walk".  It was like a compilation of all the 
"don'ts" 
that one might do incorrectly in Spanish Walk, all rolled into one picture.  
("Ignorance 
is bliss" is the old saying that came to my mind, since he seemed blissfully 
unaware of 
how wrong his form was...)  Anyway, you and I know that "dressage" takes a lot 
of time to 
learn and for the horses to become mature and muscled to do correctly...and we 
know that 
many horses can do the lower stuff well enough, but that VERY few horses can do 
the upper 
level stuff without jeopardizing their soundness.   It just boggled my mind to 
see these 
trainers touting the contorted moves they showed as "dressage"...apparently out 
of the 
blue, with little to no training considering how quickly and incorrectly the 
pictures 
appeared.   Then of course, a couple of years ago, Gudmar actually did a spiel 
at Equine 
Affaire in OH about dressage in Icelandics, the gall of which amazes me.  I 
didn't see the 
demo, but I was able to see someone's home video of it.   It wasn't impressive 
at all.  He 
had a few words right, but what he showed didn't agree with his words.


To see Jolli's sad video cover, go to http://astund.is and select "English".  
Then you can 
find it at 
http://astund.is/index.php?id=24&activemenu=24&prod_cat=73&catalog_item=1466 
by naviagating through "Catalogue" then "Books and Videos" or 
http://tinyurl.com/54ruvh . 
Notice the position of the mare's neck...and the fact that the rear legs are 
trailing out 
behind....and that the horse's legs aren't diagonally paired... and of course, 
that the 
mare isn't reaching out in front, but instead he's making her do that 
gawd-awful, 
chin-banging knee action...complete with bell boots and probably weighted 
shoes, of 
course.  To me, that just makes that mare's neck look pathetically weak and 
short.  She's 
probably a fine Icelandic mare, just not at all conformed and conditioned to 
do...well, 
whatever the heck it is that he's trying to get her to do.   Remember, this guy 
is the 
head instructor at Holar in Iceland, the much-revered (by a few anyway) riding 
school in 
Iceland... If it weren't so sad, it would be hysterically funny....but poor, 
poor 
horses...


Karen Thomas, NC 

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