Saya tidak suka Android tapi saya tidak benci Android. Yang saya benci adalah membeli Android mahal dalam 3 bulan udah keluar versi yang lebih tinggi lagi. Belum sempat aksesoris nongol udah ganti model dan stok aksesoris menumpuk gak laku *lirik soft jacket nexus one yang masih ratusan pcs #sigh
Eh kok jadi curcol Trims, Alex | Lex-ON.com The Plaza Semanggi Lt. 2 A101-102 On Jan 11, 2012 1:22 PM, "jo juda" <[email protected]> wrote: > Makanya lucu baca blog dia. Kecewa dari mana? Wong yg berhak kecewa itu > orang yg udah pernah berharap, dan dia sama sekali gak pernah harapkan apa2 > dari android kecuali jadi lebih buruk setiap hari. > > Tapi mungkin dia dibayar ya. Gw rasa logis kalo ada orang yg bela dan > benci mati-matian terhadap suatu produk krn dia bagian dari kampanye. Yg > kasihan yg jd fan boy cuma krn ikut2an. Gak dibayar, capek iya. > > ______________________ > twitter/mytubo/IG: @johjuda > fotodroids.net > On Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM, "abangkis" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Agak ridiculous gak sih ? He's picking Android Promise Now ? >> >> MG Siegler itu udah nyerang semua aspek android. Sekarang dia nyerang >> sesuatu yg sifatnya lebih ke arah politik. Di antara semua Handset >> Manufacturer/ OS builder. Hanya Google dan Android-nya yg berani mencoba >> mengubah cara Telco di US ber-operasi. Dan ketika mereka belum berhasil, >> itu jadi dasarnya dia 'Hate Android', bukannya di dukung malah di jelek2in >> ? Coba cek artikel-artikel MG Siegler yg lain utk paham sebenarnya dia itu >> bagaimana. >> >> Ada fakta yg menarik sih. Google itu berusaha keras supaya pemilik hp di >> US itu gak terikat dengan 1 Telco operator. Dan bisa dengan bebas >> ganti-ganti sim card. Mungkin mereka perlu belajar ke Indonesia kali yah. >> Udah bertahun-tahun seperti itu di sini :) >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andi - leo5354 <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> ** >>> Secara garis besar yg saya tangkap dari artikelnya adalah kekecewaan >>> author bahwa konsep awal Google atas dunia mobile lewat platform Android >>> ternyata justru tidak ditepati. >>> >>> Salah satu alasan yg dikemukakan adalah bahwa Eric Schmidt pernah >>> mengatakan bahwa HP seharusnya gratis (layanan advertising Google yg >>> menyediakan subsidi) >>> Tp kenyataannya karena keterbatasan Google sendiri, dimana mereka bukan >>> operator jaringan memaksa Google berkompromi dengan operator sehingga harga >>> handset bukannya jadi murah malah lumayan mahal (contoh yg diberikan adalah >>> Nexus One dgn harga $579) >>> >>> Selain itu soal Net Neutrality dimana menurut author Google yg pada >>> awalnya mendukung konsep itu malah akhirnya berkolaborasi dgn operator >>> Verizon (yg menentang) >>> >>> Secara garis besar opininya memang masih subyektif karena berdasar >>> pendapatnya tp argumennya jelas dan masuk akal walau masih bisa >>> diperdebatkan >>> >>> Paling ngga kita jadi punya perspektif lain atas terminologi "open" >>> Android sebagai platform >>> >>> To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of >>> life >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * Amer <[email protected]> >>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>> *Date: *Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:06:45 +0700 >>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>> *Subject: *Re: [id-android] WTI - Hate Android >>> >>> blom baca karena bahasa linggis saya jelek. >>> jadi kesimpulannya borok android dan google ada hubungannya dengan open >>> flatform itu gimana om? >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:49 AM, Andi - leo5354 <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> Google translate aja bro >>>> Artikel ini wajib dibaca oleh mereka yg mengagungkan Android sebagai >>>> "open" platform karena dalam artikel ini beberapa borok Android dan Google >>>> dibeberkan secara lugas dan jelas >>>> Nice share buat authornya karena membantu kita memandang hal dari suatu >>>> perspektif yg jelas dan didukung fakta, bukan asal ngomong tp ngga nyambung >>>> To work, to sweat and to struggle is the enjoyment and achievement of >>>> life >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: * Andika Ikhsan <[email protected]> >>>> *Sender: * [email protected] >>>> *Date: *Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:18:49 +0700 >>>> *To: *<[email protected]> >>>> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >>>> *Subject: *[id-android] WTI - Hate Android >>>> >>>> tadi liat twitter ada TT "Hate Android" >>>> ternyata asalnya adalah dari artikel ini.. >>>> http://parislemon.com/post/15604811641/why-i-hate-android >>>> jujur bahasanya rada njelimet dan ada hubungannya sama sejarah android >>>> yg saya sendiri ga paham.. mungkin ada yg bs ngasih penjelasan soal fakta2 >>>> yg disebut di artikel ini? >>>> >>>> >>>> *HATE ANDROID* >>>> >>>> Why do I hate Android? It’s definitely one of the questions I get asked >>>> most often these days. And most of those that don’t ask probably assume >>>> it’s because I’m an iPhone guy. People see negative take after negative >>>> take about the operating system and label me as “unreasonable” or “biased” >>>> or worse. >>>> >>>> I should probably explain. >>>> >>>> Believe it or not, I actually don’t hate Android. That is to say, I >>>> don’t hate the *concept* of Android — in fact, at one point, I loved >>>> it. What I hate is what Android has become. And more specifically, what >>>> Google has done with Android. >>>> >>>> Let’s turn back the clock. In 2006, the mobile landscape in the United >>>> States was almost unfathomably shitty. Motorola’s RAZR had been the >>>> top-selling device for something ridiculous like five straight years — and >>>> the only thing that didn’t suck about it was its physical size. The >>>> carriers completely controlled the industry. This cannot be overstated. >>>> >>>> Then on January 9, 2007 — exactly 5 years ago today — Steve Jobs took >>>> the stage at Macworld to unveil the iPhone. Six months later it was >>>> released. While some laughed it >>>> off<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXq9NTjEdTo>at the time, the mobile >>>> landscape completely changed. >>>> >>>> Apple and Google were great allies at the time. They united over a >>>> common enemy: Microsoft. Then-Google CEO Eric Schmidt was even on Apple’s >>>> board of directors. Google was a huge part of original iPhone OS (before it >>>> was called iOS): Google Maps, YouTube, Google Search, etc. Apple could have >>>> launched the iPhone without Google, but it wouldn’t have been as good. And >>>> if they had to do something like build their own maps from scratch, it >>>> would have taken longer. >>>> >>>> A few months later, on November 5, 2007, Google teamed up with many of >>>> the big players in the mobile/telecom space to announce the Open Handset >>>> Alliance. At the time it sounded promising, but perhaps it should have been >>>> the first warning sign. The first product of this partnership: Android. A >>>> beta was released, but it would take almost another year before the >>>> software was actually ready to go. >>>> >>>> The initial Android >>>> prototypes<http://gizmodo.com/334909/google-android-prototype-in-the-wild?tag=gadgetsandroidhardwareinthewild>looked >>>> a lot like BlackBerry devices (both in hardware and software). But >>>> the first device (the G1) and OS actually released was more of a cross >>>> between a T-Mobile Sidekick (which Android head Andy Rubin helped create >>>> while still a co-founder at >>>> Danger<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_%28company%29>) >>>> and the iPhone OS. >>>> >>>> In hindsight, Steve Jobs was clearly not happy about >>>> this<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/steve-jobs-android-a-stolen-product/61504>and >>>> the subsequent iPhone-ification of Android. But great artists steal, >>>> etc, etc. The only thing I didn’t like about Android at the time was that >>>> it was a *shitty* copy of the iPhone. It was something you couldn’t >>>> pay me to use. And most people seemed to feel the same way. >>>> >>>> Jobs probably didn’t say much at the time because he didn’t have to. >>>> The market was saying it. >>>> >>>> Time went on and it was pretty clear that despite the major players >>>> involved in the OHA, Android wasn’t getting a lot of traction. Meanwhile, >>>> the iPhone, after a price-cut and addition of 3G technology, was soaring. >>>> So Google did the logical thing, they went to see Verizon, the largest U.S. >>>> carrier, and struck a >>>> deal<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33192558/ns/technology_and_science-tech_and_gadgets/t/verizon-google-android-partnership/#.Twuk997uYug> >>>> . >>>> >>>> Remember, Apple still had an agreement with AT&T for exclusive iPhone >>>> rights in the U.S. at the time. Verizon and Google needed each other. But >>>> Google clearly needed Verizon more. This was the first real problem. A deal >>>> with the devil was struck. >>>> >>>> Let’s back up for a second. >>>> >>>> Even before Android’s launch, Google clearly had big dreams for the >>>> mobile space. “Your mobile phone should be free,” Eric Schmidt >>>> told<http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15700344/>Reuters in late 2006. He >>>> envisioned a world in which consumers didn’t have >>>> to pay for their mobile phones — advertising (served by Google, naturally) >>>> would subsidize the cost. And we’re not talking “free” with a two-year >>>> carrier contract. We’re talking *free* free. >>>> >>>> In the pre-iPhone world this may have sounded like crazy-talk. But >>>> remember, as an Apple board member and having purchased Android for Google >>>> in 2005, Schmidt knew what was coming down the pipe. He absolutely intended >>>> to disrupt the mobile market. >>>> >>>> But again, the initial releases of Android simply didn’t have the >>>> traction needed to come close to fulfilling Schmidt’s (and Google’s) dream. >>>> So deals with the carriers had to be made. >>>> >>>> Still, Google hung on to the hope of a free phone. That phone was >>>> called the Nexus One. >>>> >>>> At an event in January of 2010, Google unveiled their plan for Nexus >>>> One — the first real “Google Phone” as it were. While they were cautious >>>> and cagey with some details, the goal seemed clear: Google intended to blow >>>> up the carrier market (in the U.S. first) by moving phone distribution >>>> online, flattening it in the process. The idea was that you’d go to a >>>> website and pick the phone you wanted, then pick the *carrier* you >>>> wanted, pay, and you’d be done. >>>> >>>> Think about this for a second. Instead of going to the store of a >>>> single carrier and having a dozen shitty phones shoved in your face by >>>> salespeople that made commission, you’d be in total control of the process. >>>> The end result of consumers getting to choose their carriers (and phones >>>> and plans) was clear: major competition and subsequently a rush of better >>>> deals from said carriers to ensure customer activation and retention. >>>> >>>> Or, you could buy whatever phone you wanted *unlocked*. Eventually, >>>> pay-as-you-go SIM cards would pop up in the U.S. as a result. >>>> >>>> This was to be the dawn of the golden age of mobile in this country. As >>>> I wrote at the time: Apple And Google Just Tag Teamed The U.S. >>>> Carriers<http://techcrunch.com/2010/01/05/apple-google-carriers/>. >>>> I loved it. >>>> >>>> But it was never meant to be. >>>> >>>> What should have been obvious at the time but for whatever reason >>>> wasn’t (maybe because carrier representatives were at the event), the >>>> carriers hated this plan. And for good reason — it was going to turn them >>>> into dumb pipes that competed on price. There was no way they were going to >>>> let this fly, and they didn’t. Within a few months, citing weak sales of >>>> the Nexus One, Google scrapped their ambitious website and instead got >>>> fully in bed with the carriers. >>>> >>>> But there was more. >>>> >>>> What no one knew at the time, and I only heard months >>>> later<http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/10/google-nexus-one/>, >>>> was Google’s original vision for the Nexus One. Google intended to sell it >>>> for $99 without a contract and unlocked. Yes, a $99 unlocked phone, >>>> subsidized by Google ads. >>>> >>>> But the plan had one little problem: Google didn’t operate their own >>>> cellular network. They needed Verizon or AT&T or Sprint or T-Mobile to help >>>> them out. Google probably thought their open spectrum deal >>>> “win”<http://venturebeat.com/2008/03/20/did-google-trick-verizon-into-spending-billions-for-a-spectrum-auction-win/>in >>>> early 2008 gave them the leverage they needed here. Sadly, it did not. >>>> >>>> All of the carriers laughed in Google’s face when presented with the >>>> ambitious Nexus One plan. And given that Google had just signed the >>>> all-important deal with Verizon, it was never going to happen. >>>> >>>> So instead, at the Nexus One launch we got a website where you could >>>> indeed buy an unlocked Android phone — for $529. Nonstarter. >>>> >>>> Better yet, while they said they were committed at the time, Verizon >>>> and Sprint never even got around to supporting the Nexus One *at all*. >>>> That’s how much they were behind the project. >>>> >>>> To complicate matters further, behind the scenes, Verizon and Google >>>> were arguing over Net Neutrality rules. Verizon was opposed, Google was in >>>> favor. Then a funny thing happened. Google started supporting Verizon’s >>>> viewpoint on the matter! If you’re looking for the first post where I’m >>>> really, truly, pissed off at Google, look no further. >>>> >>>> It. Was. Total. Fucking. >>>> Bullshit.<http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/13/google-net-neutrality/> >>>> >>>> A few months later, guess what happened? Thanks to the Google/Verizon >>>> alliance on the matter, the FCC decided the compromised vision of Net >>>> Neutrality was just fine >>>> also<http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/21/verizon-google-fcc-net-neutrality/>. >>>> To be clear: Net Neutrality was thrown out in the wireless space because >>>> Google sided with Verizon’s ridiculous and horribly conflicted stance on >>>> the matter. >>>> >>>> The open spectrum enemy, turned Net Neutrality enemy, became Google’s >>>> bedmate thanks to a business deal. Straight up. Greed, for lack of a better >>>> word, is good. >>>> >>>> We got all of this thanks to Google’s desire for Android to take over >>>> the world. I commented earlier that they signed a deal with the devil — I >>>> wasn’t being facetious. They actually did! And they got away with it! >>>> >>>> I think about these things everyday that I see positive news about >>>> Android. It’s so wonderful that the platform which helped cripple Net >>>> Neutrality and is keeping the evil carriers in control is taking off. Make >>>> no mistake: Android is now the carriers’ best friend. >>>> >>>> Because Google sloppily decided to do the Motorola deal (driven by the >>>> full-on patent war <http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/09/vesper/>, for >>>> which Apple and Microsoft, and not Google, are largely to blame), and >>>> because the model isn’t great for all but the biggest >>>> player<http://parislemon.com/post/15418182445/one-out-of-three-aint-bad>, >>>> now the OEMs may be our best hope against the carrier/Android alliance. >>>> >>>> Eventually, many of them will try to do their own thing (perhaps even >>>> using Android as a base) because they’re not idiots, they see where the >>>> real money is: controlling the entire experience. Like Apple. >>>> >>>> All of this backstory knowledge fuels my rage. When I see Google talk >>>> about how “open” the platform >>>> is<http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/09/android-open/>, >>>> setting it up as the foil to the “closed” (and framed as “evil”) iPhone, I >>>> want to scream and rip someone’s head off. It’s not only the most extreme >>>> example of being disingenuous that I can ever recall seeing — it’s nuclear >>>> bullshit. >>>> >>>> Apple, for all the shit they get for being “closed” and “evil”, has >>>> actually done far more to wrestle control back from the carriers and put it >>>> into the hands of consumers. Google set off to help in this goal, then >>>> stabbed us all in the back and went the complete other way, to the side of >>>> the carriers. And because they smiled the entire time they were doing it >>>> and fed us this “open” bullshit, we thanked them for it. We’re still >>>> thanking them for it! >>>> >>>> When you think about it in the context of this election season we’re >>>> entering, it’s a brilliant political maneuver that Google has pulled off >>>> with Android. They’ve taken something they’ve done that’s actually bad for >>>> us and spun it in such a way that most people actually buy into it being >>>> good for us. >>>> >>>> And for the carriers, Android is the best thing ever because it’s the >>>> new “opiate for the masses<http://parislemon.com/post/15200195253/clopen>”. >>>> Everything shitty they’re doing is great because they’re doing it with >>>> Android — at least it’s not iOS. What a load of horseshit. >>>> >>>> I realize that the Android team at Google has a lot of good people >>>> doing great work. I know some of them. I respect them. But I cannot respect >>>> their decision to continue to work on this platform that perpetuates our >>>> imprisonment. I have to believe most simply chose not to think about these >>>> things. But they should. They really should. >>>> >>>> There’s no denying that there are upsides to open — a lot of them. But >>>> in the case of Android, “open <http://techcrunch.com/2011/03/26/open/>” >>>> has been hijacked and wildly contorted so as to mask the shady side of >>>> what’s really been going on. And it’s working. >>>> >>>> So that, ladies and gentleman, is why I hate Android. It has nothing to >>>> do with the actual product (which continues to improve every year and is >>>> quite good >>>> now<http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/14/iphone-galaxy-nexus-review/>). >>>> It has to do with a promise that was broken and swept under the rug. >>>> >>>> As crazy as it may sound to some of you, beyond a full OEM revolt >>>> (which could ultimately benefit the carriers as well), our hope now lies >>>> with Apple and Microsoft. >>>> >>>> Apple, because they put the consumer first and have proven time and >>>> time again that they will not bend to carrier bullshit and will often work >>>> against them behind the scenes. And they control the all-important Apple >>>> stores for distribution (and, of course, the App Store). >>>> >>>> Microsoft, because they have a model (many handsets on all carriers) >>>> that can potentially scale better than Apple’s can while still giving >>>> control (mostly) to the users. And they have Nokia on board with their >>>> plan. And they have intersections with products like Xbox. (Though it >>>> may be too late in the >>>> U.S.<http://parislemon.com/post/14840209963/the-windows-phone-problem-in-three-words-way-too-late> >>>> ) >>>> >>>> Perhaps more people will relate to this: I hate Android for the same >>>> reason that Severus Snape hates Harry Potter — the very sight reminds me of >>>> something so beautiful, that was taken. Except it’s worse. 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