Maksudnya reverse engineering kali ya dok? Sent from My Notes On Aug 17, 2013 7:05 AM, "Prayudi Aji Murtolo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cari cari di link lainnya, Microsoft tidak mengupdate kemampuan browser > nya yang menyebabkan kemampuan ad/iklan dari YouTube tidak berjalan dengan > baik > Google menuduh Microsoft melakukan reserve engineering > > Japri : [email protected] > Temukan hal baru di Lhaini.com > On Aug 17, 2013 6:55 AM, "Amer" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As attached, statement dari Google mengindikasikan Microsoft melanggar >> terms yg disepakati dan me re release YouTube app yg gak sesuai. >> >> ▒ Android 4.3 @ Google neXus4™ ▒ >> On Aug 16, 2013 9:06 PM, "Petra Immanuel" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Penasaran dr versi Google nya Gmn penjelasannya >>> >>> Sent from Droid DNA >>> On Aug 16, 2013 3:05 PM, "Dionisius Hendro Putra Palandi" < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Mungkin Google balas dendam karena beberapa produsen HH Android harus >>>> bayar Royalti ke Microsoft :)))) lol >>>> >>>> sol >>>> >>>> On Friday, August 16, 2013 12:05:14 PM UTC+7, imam wiratmadja wrote: >>>>> >>>>> http://blogs.technet.com/b/**microsoft_on_the_issues/** >>>>> archive/2013/08/15/the-limits-**of-google-s-openness.aspx<http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2013/08/15/the-limits-of-google-s-openness.aspx> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The limits of Google’s openness >>>>> Rate This >>>>> 15 Aug 2013 12:26 PM >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> 0<http://blogs.technet.com/b/microsoft_on_the_issues/archive/2013/08/15/the-limits-of-google-s-openness.aspx#comments> >>>>> >>>>> Posted by David Howard >>>>> Corporate Vice President & Deputy General Counsel, Litigation & >>>>> Antitrust, Microsoft >>>>> >>>>> You may be wondering what happened to the YouTube app for Windows >>>>> Phone. Last May, after we launched a much improved app on our platform, >>>>> Google objected on a number of grounds. We took our app down and agreed to >>>>> work with Google to solve their issues. This week, after we addressed each >>>>> of Google’s points, we re-launched the app, only to have Google >>>>> technically >>>>> block it. >>>>> >>>>> We know that this has been frustrating, to say the least, for our >>>>> customers. We have always had one goal: to provide our users a YouTube >>>>> experience on Windows Phone that’s on par with the YouTube experience >>>>> available to Android and iPhone users. Google’s objections to our app are >>>>> not only inconsistent with Google’s own commitment of openness, but also >>>>> involve requirements for a Windows Phone app that it doesn’t impose on its >>>>> own platform or Apple’s (both of which use Google as the default search >>>>> engine, of course). >>>>> >>>>> When we first built a YouTube app for Windows Phone, we did so with >>>>> the understanding that Google claimed >>>>> to<http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/meaning-of-open.html>grow its >>>>> business based on open access to its platforms and content, a >>>>> point it >>>>> reiterated<https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwxyRPFduTN2emMxQ0tkTEZzajQ/edit?pli=1>last >>>>> year. As antitrust enforcers have launched investigations against >>>>> Google – some of which are still ongoing – the company has reiterated its >>>>> commitment to openness and its ability to stick to its openness >>>>> commitments >>>>> voluntarily. >>>>> >>>>> With this backdrop, we temporarily took down our full-featured app >>>>> when Google objected to it last May, and have worked hard to accommodate >>>>> Google’s requests. We enabled Google’s advertisements, disabled video >>>>> downloads and eliminated the ability for users to view reserved videos. We >>>>> did this all at no cost to Google, which one would think would want a >>>>> YouTube app on Windows Phone that would only serve to bring Google new >>>>> users and additional revenue. >>>>> >>>>> There was one sticking point in the collaboration. Google asked us to >>>>> transition our app to a new coding language – HTML5. This was an odd >>>>> request since neither YouTube’s iPhone app nor its Android app are built >>>>> on >>>>> HTML5. Nevertheless, we dedicated significant engineering resources to >>>>> examine the possibility. At the end of the day, experts from both >>>>> companies >>>>> recognized that building a YouTube app based on HTML5 would be technically >>>>> difficult and time consuming, which is why we assume YouTube has not yet >>>>> made the conversion for its iPhone and Android apps. >>>>> >>>>> For this reason, we made a decision this week to publish our non-HTML5 >>>>> app while committing to work with Google long-term on an app based on >>>>> HTML5. We believe this approach delivers our customers a short term >>>>> experience on par with the other platforms while putting us in the same >>>>> position as Android and iOS in enabling an eventual transition to new >>>>> technology. Google, however, has decided to block our mutual customers >>>>> from >>>>> accessing our new app. >>>>> >>>>> It seems to us that Google’s reasons for blocking our app are >>>>> manufactured so that we can’t give our users the same experience Android >>>>> and iPhone users are getting. The roadblocks Google has set up are >>>>> impossible to overcome, and they know it. >>>>> >>>>> Google claims that one problem with our new app is that it doesn’t >>>>> always serve ads based on conditions imposed by content creators. Our app >>>>> serves Google’s advertisements using all the metadata available to us. >>>>> We’ve asked Google to provide whatever information iPhone and Android get >>>>> so that we can mirror the way ads are served on these platforms more >>>>> precisely. So far at least, Google has refused to give this information to >>>>> us. We are quite confident that we can solve this issue if Google >>>>> cooperates, but fixing Google’s concern here is entirely within Google’s >>>>> control. If Google stops blocking our app, we are happy to work with them >>>>> on this, entirely at Microsoft’s expense. >>>>> >>>>> Google also says that we are not complying with its “terms and >>>>> conditions.” What Google really means is that our app is not based on >>>>> HTML5. The problem with this argument, of course, is that Google is not >>>>> complying with this condition for Android and iPhone. Again, we’re happy >>>>> to >>>>> collaborate with Google on an HTML5 app, but we shouldn’t be required to >>>>> do >>>>> something that apparently neither iPhone nor Android has successfully >>>>> figured out how to do. >>>>> >>>>> Google raises concerns about our branding too. The funny thing about >>>>> this point is that we’ve been using the same branding continuously since >>>>> 2010 for an inferior YouTube app. Now that we have an app that gives users >>>>> a fuller YouTube experience, Google objects to the branding (even though >>>>> we’ve taken additional steps to clarify that we are the author of the >>>>> app). >>>>> Go figure. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, Google cites a degraded experience. Since 2010, Google >>>>> permitted a Windows Phone app that was far below the iPhone and Android >>>>> app >>>>> experiences. Reviews of our new app are unanimous that the experience is >>>>> much improved, and we’re committed to making adjustments to improve it >>>>> further. If Google were truly concerned about a degraded experience, it >>>>> would allow our users access to the new YouTube app they love. >>>>> >>>>> We think it’s clear that Google just doesn’t want Windows Phone users >>>>> to have the same experience as Android and Apple users, and that their >>>>> objections are nothing other than excuses. Nonetheless, we are committed >>>>> to >>>>> giving our users the experience they deserve, and are happy to work with >>>>> Google to solve any legitimate concerns they may have. In the meantime, we >>>>> once again request that Google stop blocking our YouTube app. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> ========== >>>> >>>> INDOSAT SUPER 3G plus >>>> http://www.indosat.com/Personal/Internet/INDOSAT_SUPER_3G_plus >>>> --------------------- >>>> ID-Android on YouTube >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A >>>> -------------------- >>>> Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : >>>> http://www.hostune.com >>>> -------------------- >>>> Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 >>>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id >>>> ========== >>>> --- >>>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] >>>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google. >>>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, >>>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti [email protected] . >>>> >>> -- >>> ========== >>> >>> INDOSAT SUPER 3G plus >>> http://www.indosat.com/Personal/Internet/INDOSAT_SUPER_3G_plus >>> --------------------- >>> ID-Android on YouTube >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A >>> -------------------- >>> Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : >>> http://www.hostune.com >>> -------------------- >>> Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 >>> Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id >>> ========== >>> --- >>> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] >>> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google. >>> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, >>> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti [email protected] . >>> >> -- >> ========== >> >> INDOSAT SUPER 3G plus >> http://www.indosat.com/Personal/Internet/INDOSAT_SUPER_3G_plus >> --------------------- >> ID-Android on YouTube >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A >> -------------------- >> Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : >> http://www.hostune.com >> -------------------- >> Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 >> Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id >> ========== >> --- >> Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] >> Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google. >> Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, >> kirim email ke id-android+berhenti [email protected] . >> > -- > ========== > > INDOSAT SUPER 3G plus > http://www.indosat.com/Personal/Internet/INDOSAT_SUPER_3G_plus > --------------------- > ID-Android on YouTube > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A > -------------------- > Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : > http://www.hostune.com > -------------------- > Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 > Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id > ========== > --- > Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] > Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google. > Untuk berhenti berlangganan dan berhenti menerima email dari grup ini, > kirim email ke id-android+berhenti [email protected] . > -- ========== INDOSAT SUPER 3G plus http://www.indosat.com/Personal/Internet/INDOSAT_SUPER_3G_plus --------------------- ID-Android on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u81L8Qpy5A -------------------- Web Hosting, Zimbra Mail Server, VPS gratis Raspberry Pi : http://www.hostune.com -------------------- Aturan Umum ID-Android: http://goo.gl/MpVq8 Join Forum ID-ANDROID: http://forum.android.or.id ========== --- Anda menerima pesan ini karena Anda berlangganan grup "[id-android] Indonesian Android Community " dari Grup Google. 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