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On Nov 17, 2015 15:44, "Arif Budiman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Nah ini
> Kalau chat di dalam game online hp kena pantau nggak ya? kan banyak banget
> tuh game yang ada fitur chat nya.
> misalnya ada perintah A serang target no 1 pada jam 10 pagi pakai
> naga....gimana taunya itu chat game biasa atau kode perintah buat teror.
> On Nov 17, 2015 15:09, "Hilmy Irfan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ya kalo mau lebih murah, chatnya di CoC, bikin clan sendiri :D
>>
>>
>> Hilmy
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>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Iwan Ridwan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> wkwkwk, sudahlah jgn bawa2 ISIS ke android...nanti panjang diskusinya,
>>> ujung2nya SARA dan Politik
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Mickey Vanda <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ini bisa panjang critane, wkwkwkwk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 10:20 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Loh...bukan nya subsidi dana isis dari US ???
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Andhika Asmara <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ISIS kan memang banyak duit. Persenjataannya aja bisa bikin USA dan
>>>>> Sekutu kalang kabut.
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2015 00:04, "suwandi muljadi" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Terorisnya banyak duit yah. Ps4 kan mahal banget. Blom lagi gamenya
>>>>>> kudu ori.
>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2015 9:17 PM, "Arya Mada" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chat di game ya utk diskusi rencana bombing.... never think of that
>>>>>>> before 😷😷😷
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from Hisense Pureshot
>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2015 4:56 PM, "Alvin Tedjasukmana" <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss
>>>>>>>> And Plan Attacks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: psn arabic]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris
>>>>>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewherper/2015/11/13/terror-attacks-hit-paris/>
>>>>>>>>  which
>>>>>>>> killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the 
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> popular gaming console in the world, Sony
>>>>>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/companies/sony> ’s PlayStation 4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed
>>>>>>>> Saturday night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number 
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> raids in nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at 
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> one PlayStation 4 console.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright
>>>>>>>> <http://www.xpats.com/brussels-weakest-link-europes-fight-against-terrorism>
>>>>>>>> that the PS4 is used by ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected 
>>>>>>>> due to
>>>>>>>> the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even 
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns
>>>>>>>> that they would be *too* light on privacy, with peripherals like
>>>>>>>> Microsoft <http://www.forbes.com/companies/microsoft> MSFT -1.92%
>>>>>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/companies/microsoft>’s Kinect and
>>>>>>>> PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if 
>>>>>>>> say,
>>>>>>>> the government wanted a window into your living room.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral
>>>>>>>> based communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel
>>>>>>>> to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech 
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted 
>>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>> calls, texts and email.
>>>>>>>> Recommended by Forbes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed
>>>>>>>> PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages 
>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>> the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward
>>>>>>>> Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded
>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>> <http://www.propublica.org/article/world-of-spycraft-intelligence-agencies-spied-in-online-games>
>>>>>>>> in games like *World of Warcraft* to infiltrate virtual terrorist
>>>>>>>> meet-ups.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: world of warcraft2]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication
>>>>>>>> could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult
>>>>>>>> <http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/01/searches-and-xbox-live-stakeouts-how-cops-investigate-consoles/>
>>>>>>>> for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a
>>>>>>>> simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of
>>>>>>>> Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not
>>>>>>>> grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government
>>>>>>>> agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in 
>>>>>>>> pursuit of
>>>>>>>>  criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids
>>>>>>>> via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such 
>>>>>>>> capabilities, as
>>>>>>>> nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> age of YouTube and livestreaming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *See also: Attacks In Paris Highlight The Worst And Best Of Social
>>>>>>>> Media
>>>>>>>> <http://www.forbes.com/sites/federicoguerrini/2015/11/14/attacks-in-paris-highlight-the-worst-and-best-of-social-media/>*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party
>>>>>>>> together and chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone
>>>>>>>> is listening because of the difficulty and infrequency of governments
>>>>>>>> eavesdropping on those forms of communication. It remains unclear just 
>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>> much access the government has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live 
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> the past few years, but whatever it is, it’s likely still short of
>>>>>>>> its ability to track more traditional forms of communication, such
>>>>>>>> as cellphones and computers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users,
>>>>>>>> 65 million of them active, making this no small pool of people. While
>>>>>>>> government agencies can often build profiles of suspected terrorists 
>>>>>>>> based
>>>>>>>> on their Internet or communication history, it’s much harder to profile
>>>>>>>> someone based on console usage, if that data is even accessible. Few 
>>>>>>>> users
>>>>>>>> would visit extremist’s sites in the PSN Web browser for instance or 
>>>>>>>> brag
>>>>>>>> about future attacks in a public game lobby. There is no collection of
>>>>>>>> games that really should raise “suspicion” about possible terrorist 
>>>>>>>> ties in
>>>>>>>> an era where terrorism-filled *Call of Duty* titles are the
>>>>>>>> best-selling games of the year, every year. How do you “profile” a 
>>>>>>>> gamer
>>>>>>>> when information is not easy to access, and probably will tell you 
>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>> even if you *could* get your hands on it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: ps4 headset]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The scary part of all this is that there are probably still a
>>>>>>>> number of ways that terrorists could send messages to each other 
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> speaking a word, if they really wanted to. An ISIS agent could spell 
>>>>>>>> out an
>>>>>>>> attack plan in *Super Mario Maker*’s coins and share it privately
>>>>>>>> with a friend, or two *Call of Duty* players could write messages
>>>>>>>> to each other on a wall in a disappearing spray of bullets. It may 
>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>> ridiculous, but there are many in-game ways of non-verbal communication
>>>>>>>> that would almost be impossible to track. To do so would require an 
>>>>>>>> FBI or
>>>>>>>> NSA agent somehow tapping *all* the activity on an entire console,
>>>>>>>> not just voice and text chat, and that should not even be technically
>>>>>>>> possible at this point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While the makers of burner phones were once criticized for making
>>>>>>>> it easier for criminals to communicate, it seems unlikely Microsoft and
>>>>>>>> Sony will face the same scrutiny (not that they should). And yet, they 
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>> be inclined to start providing easier ways for governments to monitor
>>>>>>>> specific accounts or consoles than what’s readily available now. 
>>>>>>>> Because as
>>>>>>>> it is, the most popular gaming devices also happen to be the most 
>>>>>>>> effective
>>>>>>>> at connecting not just the world’s friends, but the world’s enemies as 
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sumber:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/11/14/why-the-paris-isis-terrorists-used-ps4-to-plan-attacks/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kalau memang beneran, ngeri juga nih....
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