On Tuesday, May 12, 2020 1:09:55 PM EDT Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:30 AM Alessandro Vesely <ves...@tana.it> wrote:
> > On Tue 12/May/2020 17:48:38 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:20 AM Alessandro Vesely <ves...@tana.it>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > >> On Mon 11/May/2020 20:23:12 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> > >>> Indeed; why would I believe what any given domain claims in this tag?
> > >> 
> > >> If you trust the domain, you can as well trust their tagging.
> > > 
> > > If you trust the domain, you don't need their tagging.
> > 
> > Why not?  I may trust gmail, say.  Yet, in order to learn what
> > restrictions
> > they apply to the From: I have to create an account and try.  There is no
> > standard location where they declare their policy in a machine-readable
> > manner,
> > and policies written in legalese are even less readable...
> 
> What would you do with that information if you had it?
> 
> Maybe you're using a different definition of "trust" than I am.  To me, "I
> trust gmail.com" means "I believe mail signed by gmail.com is legitimate",
> irrespective of how they might handle their mail.
> 
> Put another way: I believe I would only reach the opinion that I "trust"
> mail from a domain when I already know the thing(s) your tag(s) would tell
> me.

The implication is that such tags won't affect a deliver/don't deliver decision 
(which I think is correct - the moment it does, all my mail will be marked 
super duper urgent first class the user really wants this I swear).  

To the extent such information is useful for downstream processing (and I 
don't really know that it is, but if it is), there's no compelling need to 
complicate DKIM with this.  As Dave suggested, this could be a new header 
field.  It could be covered by a DKIM signature with the same security 
properties as if it were a part of DKIM without imposing additional complexity 
on DKIM.

Scott K


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