On 11/11/22 23:09, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

More concerning to me: The IETF has previously taken the position that the market will figure out spam and phishing, and therefore consideration of protocol solutions should be deflected.  DMARC was the result.   I feel that we leave this to the market, and that industry, at our own peril.  I think we should give this a serious look before rejecting it outright.

Are you able to state concisely why DMARC was a harmful outcome, assuming that's your intended meaning ("peril")? From my admittedly somewhat bystanderish perspective, DMARC looked like a great success, particularly after IETF repeatedly failing for more than a decade[1].

- Roland


1: SPF -all, DomainKeys o=~ (IIRC), ADSP discardable

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