> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Roland Turner 
> <roland=40rolandturner....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> On 11/11/22 23:09, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> More concerning to me: The IETF has previously taken the position that the 
>> market will figure out spam and phishing, and therefore consideration of 
>> protocol solutions should be deflected.  DMARC was the result.   I feel that 
>> we leave this to the market, and that industry, at our own peril.  I think 
>> we should give this a serious look before rejecting it outright.
> Are you able to state concisely why DMARC was a harmful outcome, assuming 
> that's your intended meaning ("peril")? From my admittedly somewhat 
> bystanderish perspective, DMARC looked like a great success, particularly 
> after IETF repeatedly failing for more than a decade[1].
> 
I would give my opinion, but that’s off-topic for discussions of the replay 
problem.

-Jim

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