John Levine wrote in
 <20240119192026.dedff8104...@ary.qy>:
 |It appears that Evan Burke  <evan.s.bu...@gmail.com> said:
 |>> Insisting on using the same term for these two different cases has an
 |>> academic purity to it, but has already been demonstrated to be destructi\
 |>> ve
 |>> in practical terms, because it creates confused discussion.
 |
 |>No, that's exactly backwards. The oversigning case is a subset of the
 |>general DKIM replay case, because mitigation techniques for general DKIM
 |>replay - they do exist, though they are imperfect - also apply to cases
 |>where header addition has taken place. Oversigning is a defense against \
 |>the
 |>subset of DKIM replay where headers have been added, but not the general
 |>case.
 |
 |I think you've rather proved Dave's point. Resending the identical
 |message and mutating a signed message with duplicate headers are
 |different problems even though they have some technical overlap.
 |
 |I don't really care what people call them but it would be nice if they

(Seems like "seal"ing would be a better term than "oversign"ing.)

 |had different names so we don't have to use six round trip messages
 |each time to figure out which one we're referring to.
 |
 |Pretty much everywhere except this mailing list "DKIM Replay" means
 |the former, resending the identical message.

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

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