Changed to "intended to include them".

-MSK

On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:02 AM Tim Wicinski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> I think V3 is worth having the IESG work over.
>
> I made one small change
>
>  s/intended to them as recipients/intended them as recipients/
>
> tim
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 9:31 PM Bron Gondwana <brong=
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Based on Dave and Murray's comments in particular, here's another take!
>>
>> Key Changes:
>>
>>    - Removed milestone dates
>>    - Simplified a lot of the supporting text
>>    - No mention of "trust relationships"
>>    - Used the words "hop" and "hops" to align with the terminology in
>>    RFC5322.
>>    - Detailed known issues, and specified the three major issues being
>>    addressed explicitly: modifications, lack of signature on recipient, lack
>>    of signature on sender/bounce address.
>>
>> The detail of known issues is maybe a bit wordy - would be happy to see
>> tighter text proposals.
>>
>> Again - the original is at:
>> https://notes.ietf.org/YGynIPpYS7yqg5G7ZeSQeA?both
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bron.
>> DKIM2 Draft Charter
>> Background
>> Emails often flow indirectly through multiple systems - at each hop
>> potentially undergoing redirection, expansion into multiple copies via
>> aliases and mailing lists, as well as rewriting and filtering before
>> eventually arriving at a mailbox or being processed by a receiving software
>> agent.
>>
>> Known difficulties caused by multi-hop email delivery include:
>>
>>    - If a message is modified after DKIM signing, it is not possible to
>>    determine what was modified, or which hop made which changes.
>>    - The SMTP RCPT TO address might not be present in the signed header
>>    fields of an email, meaning that the same message can be sent to
>>    arbitrarily many recipients, and those recipients can not tell if the
>>    signer intended to them as recipients.
>>    - Similarly, a message with the exact same DKIM signature can be
>>    legitimately received by multiple recipients at a single domain, meaning
>>    that tracking signatures is not sufficient to determine whether a message
>>    is being replayed.
>>    - The SMTP MAIL FROM address can be forged, meaning that accepting an
>>    email and later sending a DSN to that address can cause backscatter, 
>> making
>>    it hard to perform asynchronous content analysis or delay delivery while
>>    collecting more signal; leading to the use of greylisting as a suboptimal
>>    workaround to delay making a determination.
>>
>> Objectives
>> The working group will extend and modify the mechanisms of DKIM to
>> address message alterations, to provide signing of the intended recipient
>> address at each hop, and to make asynchronous delivery status notifications
>> usable.
>>
>> It will be necessary for any new design to work in parallel with the
>> existing mechanisms, and have a clear upgrade path.
>>
>> To achieve its goals, this work requires a wide scope. The group may need
>> to supersede, modify, or replace many parts of the current email
>> infrastructure and associated reporting mechanisms.
>>
>> To allow for widespread adoption, proposed solutions will be tested for
>> interoperability and scalability.
>>
>> Deliverables
>> The working group will produce multiple documents, at least:
>>
>>    - A overview document describing the problem area and proposed
>>    mechanism (informational)
>>    - One or more documents on implementation of the mechanism (standards
>>    track)
>>    - A guide for implementation during the changeover period, in which
>>    interoperability with existing mechanisms needs to be maintained
>>    (informational)
>>
>> This working group will also liaise with the DMARC working group on
>> adding our specification as a new recognized authentication mechanism.
>>
>> Milestones
>>
>>    - Overview document adopted
>>    - Mechanism document draft(s) adopted
>>    - Experiments and updated drafts
>>    - Implementation guide adopted
>>    - Group of related documents sent to IESG
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd
>>   [email protected]
>>
>>
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