On 13/05/2025 17:15, John R Levine wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2025, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
Let us not forget that one of the goals of DKIM2 is to make this kind of munging unnecessary.

I also thought this was the desired solution to the mailing list problem.  In fact, since a DKIM2 verifier can verify the original signature of the author's domain, it can issue a dmarc=pass in the face of admissible transformations.

Right.

However, how does a list know which subscribers have a DKIM2 verifier?

They don't know, but I figure that's an incentive to get recipients to use DKIM2 so their list users are happy.


Improvements are certainly an incentive to adopt. Yet, a mailing list will not stop munging all of a sudden, collecting a cascade of rejects and unsubscriptions. One change mailing lists could make is to make munging a per-subscriber option, rather than per-list.


We should still stick to the curious, though improved, protocol above.

Um, I think you misspelled ugly hack that doesn't scale.


Ugly as it is, it is scaling perfectly...


Best
Ale
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