The only proxy we have to address this difference is whether people are willing to *deploy*.

Eliot

On 14.05.2025 16:07, Dave Crocker wrote:
On 5/13/2025 8:15 AM, John R Levine wrote:
However, how does a list know which subscribers have a DKIM2 verifier?

They don't know, but I figure that's an incentive to get recipients to use DKIM2 so their list users are happy.


This demonstrates a pretty classic error in how Internet technicians discuss deployment and adoption, completely missing the difference between users and operators (and app providers) and their very, very different incentives and control.

Recipients who are not computer scientists -- and even many who are -- have no control at all over adoption of capabilities on the platforms they use.  At most, they can control their choice of user agent, but only if that is separate from the platform they use.  (Which does not help if the function is being deployed in the infrastructure, of course.)

So, no, the case you cite does not provide an incentive for adoption.  Anymore that it worked for DMARC.

d/

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