>>> ... So if we clarify that the recommended practice is to "silently
>> discard" (as some  have described it), won't we have solved this
>> particularly problematic work flow?
>>
>> You're right, then it just falls back to mail mysteriously disappearing.
>>
> why can't the MLM send bounce back to sender's mail-from address?

The MLM can't tell the difference between a rejection due to the recipient 
address being invalid and due to ADSP.  Rejecting due to ADSP is probably 
wrong due to the spec, but sending mail to a list from a domain publishing 
ADSP discardable is definitely wrong, so apportion the blame as you wish.

> John's response seems to imply that it is sender's responsibility not to
> send to lists in first place (if they use discardable). But can we be sure
> this will happen?

Of course not.  That's an example of the reason that I don't find ADSP 
useful (as opposed to manually vetted discard lists.)  There's no way to 
tell whether the party publishing discardable understands what they're 
saying.

> - Wouldn't we have same problem with forwarders? and I don't think sender
> can predict whether mail will go  thru forwarders....

DKIM is not SPF.  It is uncommon for a forwarder to break a DKIM 
signature.  We designed it that way.

R's,
John
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