> -----Original Message----- > From: John R. Levine [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:07 AM > To: MH Michael Hammer (5304) > Cc: DKIM List > Subject: RE: [ietf-dkim] Lists "BCP" draft available > > > I would appreciate you describing in detail this "collateral damage". If > > it involves discarding of mail from the domain in question then it is > > not collateral. What else do you have for us? > > It's collateral to the extent that one's users complain about not getting > perfectly good mail. "Your friend's mail admins glorp plugh ADSP grungle > bleep" isn't a very satisfactory response to users. Pointing to > legalistic language in some web page with a three letter acronym won't > help. > > There's also the problems that have been noted with people bouncing off > mailing lists. Yes, in that case both ends are doing the wrong thing, but > if either did the right thing and forgot about ADSP we wouldn't have the > problem. > > The sooner we stop wasting time trying to fix ADSP and start getting > shared drop lists, the sooner there's some hope of using DKIM to keep > simple forgeries out of peoples' inboxes. > > R's, > John
John, What you describe is NOT "collateral damage". The effect you describe is not unintended or accidental. It is inherent. You may not like it but to describe it as "collateral damage" is an abuse of the English language. Mike _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
