--On 19 August 2010 12:29:35 -0400 Hector Santos <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
>> Daniel,
>> DKIM signing clearly defines who takes responsibility for
>> signing an email
>
> Responsible for what?  Can I get sued when something goes wrong?

If you're doing stuff that's illegal, then your DKIM signature makes it 
easier to prove a law suit against you. Similarly, if you're not doing 
anything illegal, then your signature could provide evidence of tampering 
by the recipient or a third party.

>> ADSP is only useful if it is implemented by draconian senders
>> like financial emailers who really really want all malformed
>> dkim signatures to be dropped regardless of consequences
>
> Draconian?  Maybe they don't to get sued when the new signer
> ignorantly ignores policy and resigns the mail thus passing the
> responsibility buck.  You know the "You break, you own" pottery
> principle.  PAYPAL was pretty smart to put a official RFC sanctioned
> technological disclaimer out there.

Yes, I wouldn't call an ADSP user draconian. Defensive (in a neutral 
sense), perhaps.

>> There is NO filtering usefulness using DKIM as it is
>> not reputation based. It does give one the ability to slow
>> down spoofing. If the signature matches then indeed the sending
>> ISP did in fact send it
>
> But what if it didn't match?  Do you continue sending potentially
> spoofed mail?

Actually, there is filtering usefulness in DKIM, because it can be used in 
conjunction with a reputation database.

>
>> Now why would anyone make time to evangelize against a
>> protocol at a conference is beyond me unless it was SPF :-)
>
> Maybe because for so long everyone heard about how great DKIM is, with
> years of no real proof or payoff shown, and now the conference
> sponsors decided to add an opposing viewpoint or a viewpoint that
> might suggest where there might be a payoff with DKIM.



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