> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:ietf-dkim- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Macdonald > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:12 PM > To: DKIM > Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-02 review > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Dave CROCKER <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 9/13/2010 7:19 AM, MH Michael Hammer (5304) wrote: > >> If a domain publishing ADSP discardable has not gotten control of their > >> mailstreams then all I can say is "Darwin was right". > > > > > > I agree with you completely. > > > > The problem is that customers of a receiving ISP often do /not/ agree > with you. > > > > When their ISP discards mail the customer wanted, the explanation "well, > it's > > what the author told me to do" typically does not work. And since the > > customer's contact is with the receiving ISP, it is the receiving ISP > that must > > alter their activity. > > I'm not convinced this is entirely true. We often get queries from our > clients who get queries from their subscribers asking what happened to > the email they were expecting. In other words, the questions are being > initially directed to the Author, not the recipient's ISP, about the > missing email. > > So the exchange is more likely to be: > > 1) message sent with restrictive policies > 2) message bounces/is discarded > 3) recipient feels unloved, asks Author why? > 4) Author looks at logs and sees message was delivered, asks recipient > to ask their ISP why > 5) recipient asks ISP why > 6) recipient gets an answer from ISP (really?) > >
Jeff, Are you telling us that your clients are sending mail through your systems using ADSP=discardable? If not, what are the restrictive policies indicated in item "1)"? For item "3)", can you indicate generally the nature of the mails involved? Are these transactional? marketing? Where's the love? Just trying to understand. Mike _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html
