Oops. Sorry, Dean, I've just seen your response and realised that I have added 
myself, by default, to the "glib dismissal" fraternity :^(

R

Robin Wilton
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On 11 Dec 2012, at 17:00, Dean Willis wrote:

> 
> On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Allison Mankin <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Another non-onerous encryption approach I'm finding quite compelling:  
>> tcpcrypt (tcpcrypt.org).
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Fred Baker (fred) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I think there are in fact ways to have encryption that are not onerous to 
>> users. Secure HTTP encrypts, although having a standard certificate given 
>> everybody is not the most "private" way to do things. Diffie-Helman encrypts 
>> without user involvement. If we put our thinking caps on, I suspect we could 
>> find a way to encrypt that isn't onerous.
>> 
> 
> Yes, I really like tcpcrypt in concept. The "security" people I've talked to 
> about tcpcrypt dismissed it rather glibly, but it seems to me that widespread 
> use of tcpcrypt is both feasible and rewarding in its impact on casual 
> inspection and consequent change of expectations. 
> 
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