On Dec 11, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Bryan McLaughlin (brmclaug) wrote:

> I agree, obfuscation is perhaps not the formal approach we should take to
> such offerings. Asking users to encrypt to protect privacy is also onerous
> on users and may interfere with the management of networks where DPI
> 'could' be an appropriate and justifiable use.
> 
> I would also offer that privacy considerations 'should' be designed into
> the operation of systems such as we are discussing.
> 
> But as privacy is a social construct and therefore subjective it's a tad
> challenging for a technical community. That does not mean we should not
> engage in this area though.

Not sure I said otherwise.

I think there are in fact ways to have encryption that are not onerous to 
users. Secure HTTP encrypts, although having a standard certificate given 
everybody is not the most "private" way to do things. Diffie-Helman encrypts 
without user involvement. If we put our thinking caps on, I suspect we could 
find a way to encrypt that isn't onerous.

> Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2012 07:35, "Fred Baker (fred)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> If you want privacy, encrypt your traffic. Smoke screens mostly make
>> people work a little harder - not only the folks you're trying to
>> interdict, but the people you want to help.
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