Vern,

Vernon Schryver wrote:
> 
> > From: Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > >    - claim much better QoS mechanisms
> >
> > IPv6 doesn't. IPv6 offers *exactly* the same QOS mechanisms as IPv4,
> > namely IP Integrated Services and IP Differentiated Services. (There
> > is also the flow label field in IPv6, but there are as yet no detailed
> > specs of how it will be used and no false claims either).
> 
> No false claims about IPv6 QoS?  Absolutely none at all?  No recent
> statements in this mailing list (or maybe it was end-to-end) that IPv6
> QoS will be better than IPv4 Qos?  No exaggerations in the trade press?
> Do you read the same trade rags and IETF lists I do?

When I see myths propagated in the IETF, I try to correct them unless
someone else gets there first. For the trade rags it is really not
worth the bother. I was referring to RFCs, which is our output.

...
> > >       standards committee doubling of the IPv6 address from 64 to
> > >       128 bits,
> >
> > This was very specifically to enable an adequate (64 bit) locator
> > component and an adequate (64 bit) identifier component in the address.
> > And this was based on experience with several datagram network architectures
> > of the past. The only realistic alternative was variable length addresses.
> > But since we settled this in 1994, it seems somewhat beside the point.
> 
> Yes, that's the spin I recall on the doubling of the IPng address.  It
> wasn't an entirely dishonest gloss, but that's true of everything almost
> every committee does.  

I was there. I was one of the members of the IPng directorate pushing to
copy the locator/identifier split, which is lacking in IPv4 and was
present in other datagram address formats of the same vintage. Please
don't tell me it was spin or a dishonest gloss. It was a design decision, and
one I stand by with no hesitation.

...
> To put it all another way, do you think IPv6 is on the schedule that was
> advertised 5-8 years ago, and if not, how much has it slipped?

Dead on schedule. I've always said it would take 15 years. 

   Brian


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