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I thought I needed to pay to get to most ITU standards. But I might be 
wrong.

I can't see how personal closed discussions relate to open 
standardization. Are you saying that you want to have an open process, 
as long as you have a direct channel to the chairs in that process? I 
am not following you. I though the standardization for the IETF was 
done in public, not in private emails with the chairs. And that that 
was what made the IETF special.

- - kurtis -

On 2004-05-13, at 18.34, Dean Anderson wrote:

> Of course, this is exactly why the third world doesn't want to have the
> IETF in charge in its present form.
>
> Professional and standards organizations aren't private clubs.
>
>               --Dean
>
> On Wed, 12 May 2004, Kevin C. Almeroth wrote:
>
>> This pretty much does it for me:  anyone who says they are entitled
>> to participate in the IETF immediately goes into my spam bucket.
>>
>> As others have pointed out, you've done yourself more harm than good.
>>
>>>> I'm entitled to particpate, and I'm entitled to send email to the WG
>>>> chairs as a participant.
>>>>
>>>> One thing I've noticed is that of none of the people criticizing me 
>>>> has
>>>> thought to address the fact that OUR ADDRESS SPACE IS NOT HIJACKED, 
>>>> and
>>>> that these people associated with the IETF: Paul Vixie, Joe Abley, 
>>>> Bill
>>>> Manning, and Rob Austein as WG Co-chair in his role for IETF 
>>>> business, all
>>>> claim that it is.  But anyone can plainly see they are lying.
>>>>
>>>> Dean Anderson
>>>> Av8 Internet, Inc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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