SM,

> Eric Burger
> Dave Crocker
> Marshall Eubanks
> Bob Hinden
> Ray Pelletier (non-voting)
> 
> None of them are new to the IETF.  If it requires I* Chairs for the IAOC to 
> be transparent, something is not right.

But that may not always be the case that all IAOC members have a lot of IETF 
experience.  We need to have a governance model that works into the future.  

> 
>> I think the I* chairs, in my view bring a broad view of the community and 
>> operational needs based on what's involved in doing their jobs than another 
>> person would not have.
> 
> If I understand your arguments, it is also about avoiding a disconnect 
> between the administrative side of the IETF and the IAB/IESG.

Yes

> 
> draft-kolkman-iasa-ex-officio-membership-00 argues for a change to reduce the 
> workload and make the I* Chair positions more attractive.  Would it help if 
> the IAOC Chair has a liaison position on the IAB and IESG?  The IAB and IESG 
> Chairs can use their discretion to determine which IAOC meetings they should 
> attend.  The IAOC Chair gets a broader view.
> 
> The above pushes the workload around instead of addressing the problem.  If 
> this trend continues, the best fit people will turn down I* positions.

It would certainly give the IAOC chair a broader view, but still not the views 
of the I* chair.  Also, if the I* chairs (3 of 9 voting members) regularly 
didn't attend, it would be much harder to get a quorum for a meeting and pass 
motions.  

Bob

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