Yes, and sadly that rules out really good venues such as Kuala Lumpur, quite 
possibly the least expensive (hotel wise) suitable location in Asia.

Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor & Publisher
http://cisco.com/ipj

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On 9 Aug 2012, at 13:42, "John C Klensin" <john-i...@jck.com> wrote:

> Let me say that a different way.  We sometimes have to tolerate
> countries, like the US, who a fussy about visas or immigration
> procedures for people coming from specific other countries.  I
> wish we didn't.  But, as soon as a country says "if you have a
> passport from X, you aren't getting in, don't even bother to
> apply for a visa", they should be off our list of possibilities.
> 
>   john
> 
> 
> --On Thursday, August 09, 2012 22:22 +0200 "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN
> - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit.sprec...@nsn.com> wrote:
> 
>> Istanbul, Dubai, and similar places will not allow all of us
>> in the community to participate in the meetings.... 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
>> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:20 PM
>> To: ext Geoff Mulligan; Ole Jacobsen
>> Cc: ietf@ietf.org; dcroc...@bbiw.net; Richard Shockey
>> Subject: RE: So, where to repeat? (was: Re: management
>> granularity)
>> 
>> Why not consider Istanbul? It's another nice harbor city.
>> 
>> Has a series of world class hotels like Grand Hyatt, Hilton,
>> InterContinental, Radisson Blu but also less expensive hotels,
>> close to each other.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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