On 27/02/2013, at 9:59 AM, Warren Kumari <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On Feb 26, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Roberto Peon <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I'm not sure that the deadline serves any positive purpose so long as we 
>> keep all of the versions anyway. 
>> It certainly is annoying the way it is now and is disruptive to the 
>> development process rather than helpful for it.
> 
> Um, maybe.
> 
> Another way to look at it is that a deadline, any deadline, helps stop folk 
> procrastinating and actually *submit*.
> 
> Have a look at the number of submissions just before the cutoffs…

I think that's a poor trade-off. As discussed before, the publishing embargo 
disrupts work that isn't in sync with meetings. This is a tangible and somewhat 
high price to pay just to serve as a procrastination-buster for those that need 
it.

I'd be willing to deal with an embargo for draft-ietf-*, but don't see at all 
why it extends to other drafts.

Regards,


>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Melinda Shore <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> On 2/26/13 1:45 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:
>>> On the one hand, having a cut-off time could help WG chairs make a decision
>>> as to whether to entertain a discussion on a draft.  On the other hand,
>>> having no cut-off date might mean that drafts are submitted extremely late
>>> and it makes it more challenging or impossible to prepare an agenda.
>> 
>> Well, for one thing the IETF does its work on mailing lists, and
>> meetings support that rather than the other way 'round.  For another,
>> I'm not sure this deadline makes any difference in practice (other
>> than introducing an inconvenience).  We're going to be giving meeting
>> time to a draft for which there's no revision, because it needs
>> meeting time.  It's on the agenda whether there's a revision or
>> not.  I understand the deadline was introduced to provide incentives
>> for people to get their stuff in in advance of a meeting.  But.
>> 
>> Melinda
>> 
>> 
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