On Apr 30, 2013, at 4:53 PM 4/30/13, David Meyer <d...@1-4-5.net> wrote:

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> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Randy Bush <ra...@psg.com> wrote:
> you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
> -- bob dylan
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> we do not need measurements to know the ietf is embarrassingly
> non-diverse.  it is derived from and embedded in an embarrassingly
> non-diverse culture.
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> we need to do what we can to remedy this.  progress not perfection is
> our goal.
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> measurement may be useful to see if we are having effect and/or what
> things have effect (meeting locales, size of cookies, ...).
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> we should be asking the minorities and those struggling to particiate
> what we can do to help.
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> randy
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> Nicely said Randy. --dmm

Agreed - without consulting a weatherman, we've been having a discussion (among 
a rather un-diverse group of participants) about where we are, as opposed to 
asking the questions Randy suggests.

- Ralph

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