On 08/06/2013 09:08 AM, Keith Moore wrote:
On 08/04/2013 02:54 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
While I think getting slides in on time is great for a lot of reasons, reading the slides early isn't that important. What is important is that remote people see the slides at the same time as local people. For that, it seems to me that Meetecho support does exactly what is needed. You just follow the slideshow online, along with the audio.

I agree that remote people should see the slides at the same time as local people, except that I think that in both cases this should be well before the meeting. The slides shouldn't be shown at the meeting unless needed to illustrate a point of active discussion.

People keep acting as if the purpose of these meetings - the reason people spend thousands of euro and travel thousands of km - is to watch slides.
Hi Keith,

I think this sort of misses the point. At least for me as a remote participant.

I'm not interested in arguing about whether slides are good or bad. I am interested in following (and being involved) in the WG meeting. When there are slides I want to be able to see them clearly from my remote location. Having them integrated with Meetecho works fine. Having slides and other materials available to download ahead of time is also OK. I can work with what is available, but having slides brought to the meeting on USB (it happens) does me no good. Also people using pointing devices, that can't be seen remotely, to point to areas on each slide doesn't help.

As of today when the slides are available (or if there are no slides and just talk) I can follow WG meetings quite well. Being able to actively engage in any discussion remotely is, IMO, pretty much limited to the mailing lists. Getting involved in an active discussion at a WG meeting remotely is currently difficult at best and impossible at worst.

I'm all in favor of discussions in WG meetings, but from where I sit we still have a ways to go to fully integrate remote participants. Making slides available soon enough to be viewed by remote attendees during the meeting seems like an achievable step towards better integration of remote participants. The usefulness of doing this is also independent of whether the slides are for a presentation or to illustrate a point of discussion.

As Ted noted, "What is important is that remote people see the slides at the same time as local people." That is the point.

-Andrew

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